Can't run on Obama's record eh Gramps?

The "proud Americans" know the people that Romney was talking about. Just look at the ratio, it is plain wrong that the number is that high. The system is broke, it is refreshing to hear a candidate tell the truth. Some of the people that you claim that they "despise" are millionaires that YOU despise. The people that need or deserve support from the system should stand with Romney against the people that are taking away from the system. After all, the pie can only be sliced so many ways, why would a senior citizen want a system that puts their social security at risk? It is the people that have no pride, no will power or no dignity that are offended by Romney's presentation of the truth.

@Gramps ... Obama believes in the redistribution of wealth and Romney doesn't. And any sensible person knows if they are or are not a freeloader, and if they are they will no most likely vote for Obama so that they can continue to skate through life on someone else's sweat. Most have little respect for a skate, and for those that are facing tough times, no one would question their need to obtain assistance. So, you are making a big deal out of nothing.

Phony Poster !! talk about being dishonest. This is what the socialist propagandist
is all about .... Google Gramps Pupany --- --------------- Dasvidaniya Gramps

Steve -

When you can end the Iraq war, kill bin Laden, create 30 consecutive months of private sector job growth, and finally throw away your nursing bottle... then come back and comment... until then... back to your crib!

John - you forgot...kill US Ambassador, innocent USA civilians and an innocent Border Patrol Agent over a failed gun running scheme.

Obama has blood on his hands!

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Ima Hippee -

Any president who has started a war or been involved with ending a war has "blood on his hands..."

Your powers of observation and intellectual prowess are simply astounding... you should not be wasting your time on the Patch; it could be used far more appropriately picking tomatoes...

Gramps. If you're such an Obama believer, let's do a quick lesson in redistribution. I'll play the part of the Administration and you play the piggy bank. After all, that's how OBAMA views the TAX PAYING AMERICAN PUBLIC. Now all you have to do is hand me your check book, never mind you have to pay your mortgage, doctor's bills and buy groceries. I'm here to tell you that you have too much. I'm going to write checks to a couple of your neighbors because I don't feel they have enough. I'm gonna pay some bills for some unfortunate illegal immigrants in Texas because we ALL need to do our part and finally, I'm going to pay for Condoms for some women in FL who isn't responsible enough to abstain from sex or find it important enough to make her own provisions for safe sex. When I give you your check book back, you'll see that I've spent more than you have but that didn't concern me because you had checks ...... so I used them. Don't be angry about this, its redistribution Gramps. Your champion, OBAMA just showed you his understanding of economics.

@ Gramps - let's not forget that another of your neighbors has been very very fortunate indeed and hid his checkbook outside of the country and wines and cries and tries to buy elections everytime someone has the audacity to question what they contribute to the neighborhood. These are the same folks who say to your face they want small government and personal freedom, but yet want descision making abilities in your private lives... especially when it comes to your doctors office or bed room. You see, if your doctor wants to perscribe something, this neighbor wants to deny you this medicine because they think they know better then your doctor. And if you want the freedom to marry the love of your life, this neighbor wants to keep you from that because some Zombie Jewish Carpenter was, 2,000 years ago, a homophobe.

You see, Gramps, these wonderful "all-knowing" neighbors have no concept of reality or what it means to be in modern, educated culture. Indeed - they deride education in any form.

That's the Tea Pary - your present day Republican Party.

H.E. Pennypacker -

He was doin' Ann...

poor widdle baby. its tummy is upset. too bad.

@Michael McClusky....You do realize that it is just a piece of propaganda?

@Lyle If it is all propaganda, then why doesn't the media cover his formative years whatsoever? Why did the Washington Post recently admit that they did not investigate Obama at all in 2008 because they wanted him to win? And why does Barack's long time association with his mentor, Frank Davis, escape scrutiny? Was it because he was a devout Communist who was being watched by the FBI?

Michael, good questions. Folks like Lyle don't want to know the truth if it doesn't fit their view of reality or their narrative of who they want to be. Ignorance is certainly bliss with liberals, they run from facts and the truth.

Speaking of propaganda, has Michael Moore come out with anything of late?

But he's black and a good with the teleprompter and so cool! How dare you be a racist and bring up his past

Will birthers ever go away?

I guess as the President is black, the answer is no.

@FreeThought Troy -

If Obama really wanted to put the issue to bed, then he should release his college and graduate school records. But he won't. WHY???

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/obama-records-remain-hidden-2007-to-2012-obama-demands-hillary-and-romney-provide-records-obama-birth-college-senate-records-hidden-with-taxpayer-dollars/

Also, flubs like this just add fuel to the fire:

http://www.examiner.com/article/publisher-s-1991-booklet-says-barack-obama-was-born-kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3OMRqO7aY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se5zvGF6u9g

If nothing else, Obama committed fraud via his publisher by holding himself out to the book retail industry as being born in Kenya just to try to sell his books. He should be in jail right now for perpetrating such fraud instead of in the White House!

Michael McClusky -

... 2016 a DOCUMENTARY?... a Unicorn must be your national symbol!

Please, go see it again, this time bring your brain...

JRH -

FYI: The issue of Obama’s birth has been put to bed...

It is only alive with the racists, birthers and republicans who continue to be filled with hate and self-loathing; fortunately, you folks in your alternate universe only represent about 10-12 % of the “voting” population of the United States.

Incidentally, the KKK is naming a highway after YOU... they are even going to court to insist upon their RIGHT to do so; being the quintessential faux lawyer that you are, perhaps you would assist them... you did such a marvelous job with OBAMACARE...

@John Wilson Why doesn't the media cover Obama's background at all then? In Obama's own book he refers to Frank 23 times, but won't dare mention his full name. It was Frank Davis, his Communist mentor.

Lyle Ruble -

The great Michael Moore has a new book out, Here Comes Trouble, you can get it from his site or Amazon... It really is funny!

@John Wilson -

"The great Michael Moore"

Yeah, this says a lot about you all right!

You do realize that Moore is one of those evil 1%'s that you despise so much, don't you?

JRH -

"If nothing else, Obama committed fraud via his publisher by holding himself out to the book retail industry as being born in Kenya just to try to sell his books. He should be in jail right now for perpetrating such fraud instead of in the White House!"

Show me some proof, site some valid source for the clearly libelous statement!

JRH -

I do not despise the 1% or the 99%... only republican party monolithic stupidity...

@John Wilson -

http://www.examiner.com/article/publisher-s-1991-booklet-says-barack-obama-was-born-kenya

Did you miss the link when Hoffa posted it earlier? Or was it just another of your now infamous comprehension problems?

Obama held himself out to the retail book industry as being born in Kenya for nearly a decade, all in the name of trying to sell more books. So, if Obama really was born in Hawaii, as he now claims, then why did he lie to people for nearly a decade? How many book retailers stocked his book because they were falsely led to believe that Obama was some foreign exotic providing an international insight into American culture, a strong selling point for a book?

You honestly think it was mere coincidence that Obama only noticed the contradiction right before he decided to run for President and had his publisher correct the error? Yeah right - I'll believe that when my crap turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert!

Obama committed fraud - pure and simple!

And the reason Obama won't release his college and grad school records - because he once again committed fraud by claiming to be a foreign exchange student, just like Democratic candidate for the Senate in Massachusetts, Elizabeth Warren, committed fraud when she listed on her employment application that she was a Native American!

Democrats = fraudsters!

Nick is a gubment employee should be on Patch daily thanking us Republicans for paying his generous salary and benefits.

@Gramps: so proud that you don't believe the Republican lies and the propaganda of patch but here is an ass load of mine.

Does that imply Democrats don't pay taxes?

I am a Democrat. My last paycheck showed lots of taxes taken out - at an even higher percentage than Mit Romney... come to think of it, when was the last time HE paid income taxes?

@Free Thought Troy -- Yes, I'm a Democrat and pay federal income taxes, which makes me one of the blessed 53%. I'm still not voting for Mitt Romney, and i'm still highly offended by his remarks. Most people with incomes low enough to avoid federal income tax still are paying for their own food and shelter, and they're working damned hard to do it. Unless they're retired, and then they worked damned hard to get there.

@ Randy - or in the military since they're - you know - serving our country.

I heard an interesting fact yesterday. It was Ronald Reagan who came up with the tax cuts for the poor. Saint Ranald, I know! He was all for the "entitled" people. At the time, I guess he called it an incentive to work.

Kind of funny when positions held by Ronald Reagan are leftist and "dangerous to the country"

@Nick -

Zerban is running solely on the fact that he isn't Ryan. He brings absolutely nothing to table of his own. His entire campaign consists of trashing Ryan and mirroring Obama.

Personally, Hoffa feels that the good people of Wisconsin deserve better than a lemming like Zerban.

Why do you have such a low opinion and hatred of your fellow Wisconsinites that you'd want to see them get stuck with Obama and Zerban for the next four and two years, respectively?

Nick Poulos –

It is very hard to dislodge an incumbent, even a lyin’, totally incompetent incumbent; Ryan has become a virtual tapeworm in Janesville and the 1st District, and I think the race there will be rather close. I understand that his opponent has challenged him to a debate – Ryan refused – however, sources have indicated that Ryan is in the process of doing a 15 minute DOCUMENTARY by none other than, Dinesh D'Souza, the same creator of 2016… also referred to as, "No Truth 2016."

This DOCUMENTARY, on the preppy, Lyin’ Ryan will be sent to Janesville, along with an apology for not being able to make it in person, as he is too busy washing Willard’s magical underwear…

JRH –

As usual, you have an abundance of wind and a paucity of FACT…

[Willard is the ONE running on he isn't Obama!]

Rob Zerban is a very qualified candidate to replace Lyin’ Ryan.

Good gosh, seeing as he tells the TRUTH would be a GREAT qualification, along with the fact that he did NOT inherit his money and has not been married to Washington D.C, with no legislative accomplishments, for 14-years!

“Rob Zerban attended the Culinary Institute of America at Hyde Park, New York, a prestigious culinary school where he was trained as a chef and learned restaurant business management.
After several years of direct service and managerial experience, he went on to create two small businesses.
After selling his last business in 2008, he dedicated his life to public service. He served on the Board of Directors for the Wisconsin League of Conservation Voters. He also serves as an elected official in Kenosha County as a Board Supervisor.”

I know that republicans only recognize (1) of the 12,000 different versions of the Bible as FACT, however, I would encourage anyone to check out the following links to obtain some non-Hoffa, (Deeply biased and flawed) republican staff member, information on a truly great candidate…

http://electful.com/candidate/rob-zerban/biography

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/07/rob-zerban-wisconsin-democrat-paul-ryan_n_872735.html

http://www.wisconsingazette.com/midwest-gaze/rob-zerban-gets-boost-in-challenge-to-paul-ryan.html

Troy says..."My last paycheck showed lots of taxes taken out - at an even higher percentage than Mit Romney"

And I suspect it was a tiny fraction of the actual dollars of what Romney paid. How about looking at the actual dollars? Or does that not fit your talking point?

John Wilson - you keep ranting about Romney/Ryan being lying liars. Has the most transparent Mr. C-Span President ever told the truth?

@Ima - My point was percentage which had nothing to do with a talking point. Funny how Conservatives like talking percentages vs. actualy numbers when it comes to unemployment figures - I guess that has nothing to do with talking points... W/e. I'll make a deal with you. I can make Romneys salary AND pay my percentage in taxes. I would have NO problem with that.

But I guess we'll never know when the last time Mitt Romney paid income tax-considering he can't find it to release more of his tax returns.

Romney paid $1.9 million in taxes last year...

January of 2008? So you're holding Barack Obama accountable for the final year of GW Bush, in which the economy went into free-fall? Were you hoping no one would notice that little detail, or are you honestly confused about what year the President took office?

@H.E. Pennypacker...What do you think a recession means? This was not only a recession, but, in reality, a depression the size similar to the Great Depression. It took 15 years and a World War to finally pull us out of that one. Just as Roosevelt wasn't responsible for the conditions that led to the depression of the 1930s; Obama wasn't responsible for the horrible economic situation he walked into.

You are not going to significantly reduce government support until such time as we make the final transition from the traditional economy to the new economy of the Information Age. Keep your expectations real and quit wishing for the moon. It doesn't matter whether it is Romney or Obama as president, the process will have to run its course.

Lyle, by comparing the change from January 2008 to the present, Pennypacker is trying to credit President Obama with one full year of losses/added debt that took place under George Bush. As we all know, Barack Obama didn't take office until January of 2009.

Take a look at my post below comparing unemployment rates under Bush and Obama. Obama is performing better than Bush did in his first four years.

@Lyle -

If what you say is true about this being an actual depression, then Obama has been lying to the American people ever since he took office! And let's not forget all the other Obama lies:

unemployment below 8%, shovel ready jobs, ending the wars on day 1, bring peace to the middle east, no mandate in his healthcare law, we can watch white house meetings on C-SPAN 3, closing Gitmo, halfing the deficit in his first term, no new taxes on the middle class, create a green energy economy that works for America, etc.

The list of Obama LIES is quite literally endless.

What has the 112th Republican Congress accomplished? Where are the JOBS?

Well, they voted 33 times to kill OBAMACARE – an exercise in futility to satisfy their rabid base, the tea party, which has taken over the republican party. Usually definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.

They voted to cut Veterans benefits!

They (yesterday) killed a bill that would assist returning Veteran’s in obtaining employment!

They killed Obama’s JOB BILL!

They - actually it was Ryan’s decision to NOT bring it up in the House for a vote – killed the Bowles-Simpson bill, which resulted in the credit rating of the USA being downgraded for the FIRST time is the history… and had the audacity to put the BLAME on Obama!

They voted on numerous bills to restrict healthcare for women!

The voted on a Personhood Amendment – once an ovum is penetrated by a sperm, we need to give it a name, birth certificate, driver’s license, valid ID card for voting!

This is the most inane, incompetent, ideological bent, do NOTHING Congress in the history of the Republic – at $174,000 plus massive perks per clown – for doing NOTHING!

Finally, they forced Obama to add 6T – 1T of that was already committed by the DECIDER B/4 he left a DEPRESSION in Obama’s hands –to our national debt!

“You’re doin’ a great job Republican Party.”

JRH -

The list of Hoffa LIES is quite literally endless.

Remember, he is a "paid" Republican Party Operative... so judge his incoherent ramblings accordingly...

@John Wilson What has the Democratically-controlled Senate done all of this time? No budget for 3 years. They don't even vote on most of the bills that come before them. Talk about incompetent!

If the Republicans didn't obstruct each and EVERY attempt for the President, we would have a budget.

Leave it to a Republican to break the machine, Hide and refuse to share any of the tools, then gripe and blame when nothing gets done.

@John Wilson -

Please provide your proof that Hoffa "is a "paid" Republican Party Operative."

Otherwise, Hoffa expects you to retract such libelous statement and issue a public apology immediately!

@John Wilson -

Obamacare needs to be repealed. Premiums have been going up ever since Obamacare passed, and not down as Obama promised they would.

When did Republicans vote to cut veterans benefits exactly?

The Veterans Job Corps bill was a disaster - it was nothing but a political pander to buy votes and smart non-partisan veterans, like Hoffa's father, realize this!

Obama's jobs bill was a joke - they were all government jobs that he wanted to create! Would 10 more cops writing speeding tickets while our nation debt continue to skyrocket out of control really make us safer?

When and how did the GOP restrict healthcare for women? Just because they expect women to pay their own way instead of having the government subsidize or provide it for them, that's somehow restricting them? Yeah, you definitely need to hit that dictionary harder!

What's so wrong with a Personhood Amendment? Everyone knows that if you engage in sexual activity, one of the natural results could potentially be conception. So why not expect people to take personal responsibility for their actions instead of allowing them to terminate a life?

You're right about the Democratic controlled Senate being "the most inane, incompetent, ideological bent, do NOTHING" Congressional body in the history of the Republic.

Nice spin blaming the $6T in new Obama debt on the GOP! That's comical. Yeah, the GOP forced Obama to spend $50B on the auto bailouts. And the GOP all voted in favor of the $800B stimulus and Obamacare, right? And the GOP never tried to force massive budget cuts. Of course, let's not forget that the GOP never proposed and pushed for a balanced budget amendment - yeah, that definitely never happened! And it was the GOP that put all their support behind TARP, right?

Your revisionist histrionics are so amusing to read - shows just how out of touch of the consensus reality you truly are!

@FreeThought Troy -

Your revisionist histrionics are almost as bad as John Wilson's!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/16/obama-budget-defeated-99-0-senate/

The great Obama's budget received 0 votes in both the House and the Senate. Not a single vote in support from his own party even. And instead of coming back to the table with a more acceptable budget, our great leader, the bringer together of men, just gave up and went and played a hundred rounds of golf, a lot of basketball, partied with Hollywood celebs, etc.

Obama = EPIC FAIL!!!

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!!!

JRH -

The republican party of SMALL GOVERNMENT wants to station a republican operative at all places where someone might engage in sexual intercourse – they say this is to HELP YOU be a RESPONSIBLE PERSON; all they want is for the 310+M people in America to be RESPONSIBLE… and MONITORED BY A REPUBLICAN OPERATIVE…

Did WE THE PEOPLE ask them for this help?

Did WE THE PEOPLE invite them in our bedroom?

Is this consistent with the concept of SMALL GOVERNMENT?

Even in the great enlightened state of MISSISSIPPI, this year, the voters soundly voted down the Lyin’ Ryan Co-sponsored PERSONHOOD AMENDMENT! Every place it has been voted upon, it has been soundly rejected… Colorado voted it down twice, already, and the Reptile Party has it up for vote again on November 6, 2012…

You really do not have to have a huge brain, extraordinary analytical powers, you know, like Hoffa and Santorum, to understand that PERSONHOOD is a 2-headed hydra:

The SMALL GOVERNMENT REPUBLICAN PARTY does NOT want YOU TO HAVE PLEASURE SEX!

The SMALL GOVERNMENT REPUBLICAN PARTY wants to control the REPRODUCTIVE CHOICES of ALL WOMEN at ALL TIMES! (Think 1950’s here)

And, Lyin' Ryan voted FOR TARP & the AUTO BAILOUT & a RESTRICTION ON CEO PAY...

Michael McClusky -

"What has the Democratically-controlled Senate done all of this time?"

Only ended the Iraq war.

Rescued GM and made it the #1 selling automobile in the world.

Created 30 straight months of private sector employment growth.

Created OBAMACARE, the most meaningful and far-reaching healthcare system America has ever known, at a par with Social Security and Medicare.

And these, while the reptile party sat on their prodigious derrieres, collected $174,000 per clown, per year, and said, "NO!"

@John Wilson The Senate did not end the war in Iraq- the administration did. The Senate did not make General Motors the number one car maker in the world- heck, they are ready to call for bankruptcy again. Just this week they asked the Treasury Dept. to sell all GM stock to the market. Heck, if that were to happen the American people would lose 30% of their investment in General Motors. Think about it- the Senate is the most useless part of the US Government. Democrats are terrible with money!

@John Wilson Did you know that Obamacare was corrupted even before it reached Congress? That's right, the health care provider lobbyists got to the White House before the health care insurance lobbyists did. That is why Obamacare does not address health care costs. And another thing- the Senate didn't create all of those jobs- the private sector did dummy!

Michael McClusky -

You will, of course provide me with a site or 2 that will support your assertions about all the lobbyists influencing OBAMACARE B/4 it ever got to congress.

Of course, the private sector created those jobs... that is what I stated in a previous post " 30 consecutive months of private sector job creation." Did you think I was giving you credit for that? The 30 consecutive months of private sector jobs would not have happened without the OBAMA stimulus and other OMAMA financial policies...

IF you folks on the Patch couldn't call people names, you really would not have ANYTHING to say... such class...

@John Wilson Please read "Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington and the Education of a President" by Ron Suskind. It will open your eyes in how corrupt Obamacare is. Also, you did state in one of your posts that the Senate had something to do with job creation. This is untrue. Believe me, I think the entire Senate should be replaced pronto.

@John Wilson -

The saddest part is that you honestly believe in the crap that you're espousing here!

You definitely drank a little too much kool-aide during your trip to Guyana!

H.E. Pennypacker -

Did you miss your basic economy class?

Do you not understand the concepts recession/depression?

Do you really expect 12M more jobs to be created in the middle of a recession/depression?

Do you really think that the dead economy would immediately turn around 180 degrees once Obama assumed office on January 20, 2009?

Do you really believe ANYONE is going to buy your snake-oil arguments?

I get the republican party argument here: “Well, we gave the black man a chance, he didn’t turn the economy we destroyed around quick enough… let’s give the robot and Lyin’ Ryan a chance.”

I get it…

I'd really rather talk to someone who knows what year Barack Obama took office.

H.E.- You must be a racist! If it talks like one, it is one!

January 2001, GW Bush takes office: 4.2% unemployment
January 2005, Bush second term begins: 5.2% unemployment (rise of 1%)
January 2009, GW Bush leaves office: 7.6% unemployment (rise of 3.4% over eight years)

January 2009, Barack Obama takes office: 7.6% unemployment
August 2012: 8.1% unemployment (rise of 0.5%)

Looks like Obama is doing better than Bush did.

lol, way to cherry pick random years to fit your propaganda.

I beg to differ, Steve. Beginning of term to end of term. However, the US unemployment rate at the end of August 2004 was 5.4%, for a rise of 1.2% almost to the end of Bush's first term.

Cherry-picking is asking us to compare figures from January of 2008 to the present, when Barack Obama was not to take office for a year yet.

@Randy1949 -

Come on, we all know that the unemployment numbers can be manipulated, thus the reason why they are 'revised' so many times before becoming final, and even then, who believes in their accuracy?

Don't you think it would be more accurate to compare the total work force participation numbers? Or the numbers of those receiving some form of non-Medicare/non-SS/non-VA assistance from the federal government?

Looking at the real numbers, Obama has been a disaster worse than the inflation rate during the Carter years!

Hoffa, I used the same source in every case, so any manipulation would have been across the board. So who am I to believe -- you and Pennypacker or those lying figures?

@Randy1949 -

Actually, that's not correct. The Obama administration had the government change the way in which the BLS measures unemployment.

http://consumerist.com/2010/12/government-to-change-way-it-counts-long-term-unemployed.html

The Obama administration has been one of the most deceptive, dishonest, and manipulative Presidencies that our nation has ever seen. Obama and his people are little more than propaganda peddlers. Obama and Susan Rice are still officially blaming the stupid YouTube video for the death of ambassador Stevens in Benghazi, despite all media reporting that it was a planned Al Qaeda terrorist attack to correspond with the anniversary of 9/11!

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/20/US-ambassador-was-targeted-for-death/UPI-26211348151197/

Open doors and transparency my butt - another Obama LIE.

If you want to know the truth, you have to dig a bit deeper, as Hoffa originally suggested!

You know who cares even more than Obama or Romney? Oprah, Dr Phil and Dr Oz. You should vote for one of them. They really REALLY care!!

Joseph's a spammer from the left coast.

Joseph Robert -

Elmer Fudd has been the guy behind the curtain, running Willard's presidential campaign - now going in its 7th year - so I just would not get too concerned with the robot... just vote, smile and on November 7, 2012, say goodbye to the racial, ideological bigots Hoffa and Pennypacker...

It might be interesting, regarding how they spin their defeat... nah...

You'll be able to get those LIES off of any Reptile Party site...

It's no surprise that John Wilson would be attracted to a fellow troll commentator that doesn't live too far away from San Francisco!

I'm sure John and Joseph visit the San Fran bathhouses together frequently!

@AWD....Usurper, how did you come up with that one?

AWD -

Yes, Willard will turn America around - back to 850,000 job loss per month, killing the housing, manufacturing recovery.

Ann's "blonde" hair is dyed... so is Willard's black hair... and so is your brain...

@John Wilson -

Please provide proof that Ann and Mitt dye their hair.

Thanks!

@ AWD - "It's been proven that Obama is not an American citizen..."

It's actually been proven he IS American. Birth certificates twice - both long and short forms. Stupid, I know, he did it. Glad to see the conspiracies are still out there, though.

AWD - are you skin head, militia or just your garden variety KKK? I ask because you, sir, are as racist as the day is long. It's really sad, actually.

@FreeThought Troy -

Obama is a racist as well. After all, his campaign specifically launched a directed outreach effort called Obama for African Americans. So, where's Obama's directed outreach effort to white people? Or asians? Or latinos? Or...

Not to mention that Democrats caucused at their convention according to race, ethnicity, nationality, etc. The Republicans did no such thing - their convention was one of universal acceptance.

Obama is just as racist as AWD is. If you can't see that, then Hoffa feels sorry for you!

@AWD...I don't see the connection since it has not been proved that he's not an American citizen.

@Hoffa - I am not getting sucked into your circular logic and ignorance, no matter how much you try. I have been following you posts, Hoffa. I got lost in the maze of ignorance.

I really do feel sorry for you. It must be exhausting to live in that delusional mind every day.

@FreeThought Troy -

Yeah, I know that FACTS are difficult for you little guys to deal with. Have fun with your spoon fed propaganda!

AWD -

I propose that we take up a collection to purchase a brain for our good friend and blogger, AWD... surely I am NOT the only one who can ascertain the dire straits this poor person is in...

Hate Progressives, huh? Nice.

I play the race card with you only because of your conviction a black man with a unique name is can't possibly be our president. If Obama was a while man whose name was actually Barry, we wouldn't be having this conversation and you know it.

I'll stop playing the race card the moment you stop being racist, AWD

Here i thought Barry Soetoro was half black, wasn't his mother the one that actually raised him white?? .. but according to some morons cuz he is darker than white people he is Black?? .. Oh Barry was adopted, so he was an Indonesian citizen so does that mean he renounced his American citizenship hmmmm, but then he becomes President, Oh and he uses a dead persons Conneticut SSN number .. yeah sounds legit to me

@ Johnny - sigh
Mr. Obama is a black man because his father was black and he self identifies himself as a black man - which is his right, not yours. I'll skip the raised white part as that defies description - what are we in, 1952?

He was born in Hawaii. He never renounced his citizenship. Years of documentation back that up.

He has a legitimate SSN. He never would have been elected State Senator, let alone President with a fake. Orly Tates (sp?) is a whack job. Whoever you are getting your information from is a whack job. Carefull, this whole line of argument makes you and AWD sound like whack jobs

Ignorance is bliss Free thought .. may your head stay fully in the sand and you will go through life happy

Summerfest, the home of the 850 calorie lunch.

How many beers is that, approximately?

Mozzarella marinara....MMMMMMMMMMM

Just 'the One' beer in a pitcher; SUPER-SIZE ME;beer summit.

What are the opportunities for everyone that Obama/Biden are going to provide? And where have the opportunities been for the last term?

Oh I forgot, Hope and Change....

Bren's fixation with people that aren't even running in this election, Ayn Rand, George W. Bush, Koch Bros, ALEC, etc, is getting worrisome!

It may be time to start seeing a new mental health specialist!

Greg, I think in a time of economic crisis saving as many jobs as possible (think auto and financial industry bailouts, etc.) and keeping Americans fed are important goals. It took massive government spending in the forms of federal work programs and a world war to jump start the economy after the Great Depression, that's the formula that works (contrast/compare Greece v. post-earthquake Japan).

I personally "HOPE" that we get some bipartisan effort and compromise in Congress and CHANGE the mindset back away from "You People" back to "We the People."

Mr. Hoffa, I mentioned GWB as an exemplar. Realizing that quite a few here apparently have short-term memory issues (forgetting about the recession, record deficit handed to Obama, etc.) I thought I'd keep it current. Alas.

I do appreciate your comment about the mental health specialist, however. I realize that my exceptional multitextural cognition has been/is intimidating to some. What you are observing and reacting to is not an apparent instability on my part, but a bewilderment on yours as a result of the encounters with an intellect that is exponentially functional and capacitous. Coupled with my devastatingly linear thought processes and acerbic wit, I understand that you could be nonplussed (believe me, I've seen this before). I'm trying to keep my posts to you short and sweet, hope that helps. ; )

@Bren -

Thanks for clearing that up ;-)

Yep, nothing but excuses, not an opportunity in sight.

Hoffa, did you know that Ayn Rand was an adulteress? OH MY!!!!

Yep.

Obama knows how the debt got that high (can you say massive Democratic deficits), but doing so highlights his involvement in the process!

Bewildered -

It is obvious that one who picks a handle, "Bewildered" might just, possibly, perhaps be thought of as being a little different... Now, if Bewildered is always the tail-end of days-long posts, and always posts the great John Wilson's previous quotes, going back several months, then we can reasonably assume that Bewildered, well, really is Bewildered, and probably just a bit obsessive compulsive too...

I’m sorry you don’t have any words of your own…

As usual, Wilson is quick to attack others but acts indignant when his OWN words come back to haunt him. Can you say, dish it out but can't take it". This guy is an idiot who believes the unborn have NO rights, in slavery and red baiting. BTW, all his comments are recent, not several months ago ( not that matters). Guy's racist and paid troll. And we all know he's president of his own fan club, calling himself the "great John Wilson". What a joke! Don't spend time on him

Karl Rove comes to mind...

@Hoffa

Your stupid "logic" is a prime example (for the world to see) of utter TeaGOP nonsense!!

@morninmist -

Funny you say that, as Hoffa recalls you linking to this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fLtA-VDx4A

It's your logic - how can you now disagree with it?

Exposing liberal hypocrisy is job #1!

@Hoff

Fact is--I never did like that ad and do not believe that I linked to it.

But golly gee, If you and your imaginary Friend-Hoffa say so, then it must be true (insert sarcasm icon)!!

@morninmist -

Admittedly, it may not have been you, but others did link to it. Also, you're supporting a President who's campaign does believe in the premise of the ad, as heard in this Organizing for America teleconference between Joe Soptic and top Obama campaign director Stephanie Cutter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOoZl0tHvQ

So, while you may not approve, your candidate certainly does. How does that make you feel that you could be such a polar opposite to your candidate on an issue with such huge moral/ethical implications?

@morninmist -

If you're the same morninmist that posts comments over on the Daily Kos, then you did indeed support the context of the video.

Whow. You and your imaginary friend are sad cases--trolling the internet looking up my responses. But again, since I said I was not in favor of that particular ad, I believe you are mistaken.

Enough said.

.................

James R Hoffa

2:35 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

@morninmist -

If you're the same morninmist that posts comments over on the Daily Kos, then you did indeed support the context of the video.

@morninmist- It's not worth it. Arguing with Hoffa is an endless black hole. As he sets himself up (in his own delusional mind) as the only judge of primary sources or context. A discussion with Hoffa is like a discussion with a Junior College dropout who took half a semester of phycology and marketing classes. He learned the terms and a general meaning, but dropped out before any comprehension was made - blaming the teachers for his failures.

Dismiss Hoffa. Like an attention starved child, maybe he'll pop a clue if enough real adults ignore him.

Dems for Progress ‏@demsforprogress

President #obama's closing remarks to AARP at http://bit.ly/OMPTqa .

President Obama's closing remarks to AARP
President Obama's closing remarks to AARP

Published on Sep 21, 2012 by PBO2012

No boo's for President Obama!!

@morninmist -

OK, so you've proven that AARP faithfuls are closed minded brainwashed lemmings.

What's your point?

nah hoffa

It just says that AARP most likely will not vote for your #lyingRyan and his boss. tsk tsk.

Romney should demand an apology from Dingy Harry. He wouldn’t get it, but it would be nice to see Dingy cornered on his lies again.