I want to hear from the Republican canvasser who was the third member of the group. Why has she said nothing, and why hasn't the local press been camping out on her doorstep?

Because there is no reason to!!! It was an error by an incompetent government official. The numbers are correct! GET OVER IT!!!

Dan you are right, but the Republican canvasser would validate what is true.

Looks like "da union" once again, got to somebody. No big surprise there.
The poor woman told the truth but that is not acceptable for them unless it's what THEY want to hear.
I actually feel sorry for her, she is 80 & those unions thugs can be very "persuasive." :-(

OMG...can you imagine the pressure put on this 80 year old woman. If these elderly people are acceptable to participate in these canvassess then the comment "I don't understand anything about computers" doesn't "jibe". She's probably not computer savvy but there was a Republican canvasser there too and, of course, the reporters didn't ask him/her any questions.

Elaine, you are right. If Ramona is not qualified or does not understand something, she should not be doing the canvassing or she should ask questions. Given how important this all is...ASK QUESTIONS if there is something you don't understand, don't go on TV & say "it all jibes" & than magically 4 days later say, "I am still very, very confused?" Really??
Can you say DESPERATE

Honestly, had the Brookfield votes gone to the Dems favor nothing would be said by the media. And if the county clerk had ties to the Dems, it would be just a simple mistake (which it was). I don't know what the actual reason was that the votes were not counted on election night which is unfortunate, however I am sure that the actual votes casted in Waukesha county are much more accurate than those of Milwaukee county. All the talk of the clerk being fired or forced to resign is all about Kloppenburg being embarrassed for claiming victory before she knew the actual results. Personally it's my biggest satisfaction knowing after all the dirty ads and 100's of thousands of dollars spent to buy this election, that the better and really only qualified person won. I also relish the thought of Kloppenburg (aka; Cruella De Vil) pounding her fist and chasing after the 101 dalmatians to complete her evil quest.

I could not have said it better Donj.
Those votes were actually cast, no "trunk of the car votes" found. "Real people" who made a point to go out & vote, that want their votes to be counted, just like everybody else.
Time to move on already.

"If Ramona is not qualified or does not understand something"

There's a difference between being qualified for canvassing votes and for understanding Nickolaus' jerry-built systems and procedures.

What he should do, is demand his confused vice-chair resign. That is actually something that is under his control.

Will this ever be over? Move on.

This issue really kills me. The report to the media on Tuesday night was not the official count. It was to inform the newspapers and the media. The official send in and double count was Wednesday So yes she made a mistake but it wasn't even close to being the official cout.
As a conservative I was never so proud to realize that my vote (In brookfield) did matter and all of my votes matter if to do anything but nullify a liberals vote. I agree with everyone else that if it was the Dems vote had come up with another 7000 votes they be jumping in the aisles and Kloppenburg would be on TV everyday ssinging her praises. You noticed she hasn't said a word about retracting she won statement. What hypocrisy

I'll start by saying that I voted for Prosser. When Kloppenburg claimed victory, I thought her claim was premature but I also accepted that somehow in the state of Wisconsin, a person with no experience as a judge could ascend to the level of Supreme Court Justice, if enough people hate the governor. A tough pill to swallow but I accepted it.

When I heard about the screw up in Brookfield and learned that the Brookfield votes would give Prosser the win, naturally, my initial reaction was I was happy that my guy won after all. Then I started to hear about past election problems involving the Waukesha County Clerk and I thought, well that's great. Prosser may have legitimately won, but now, forever, there will be those who voted for Kloppenburg that will believe the election was stolen

I understand the disappointment, confusion, suspicion, anger, etc on the part of the Kloppenburg supporters. And as a Prosser supporter, I am angry at the Waukesha County Clerk for casting doubt over the legitamacy of the Brookfield votes. I think that she should either resign, or be fired and should never have any responsibility related to ensuring the accuracy of any vote tally for any election, ever.

Kitzinger QUOTE:
"I am 80 years old and I don’t understand anything about computers. I don’t know where the numbers Kathy was showing me ultimately came from, but they seemed to add up."

How convenient for, Nickolaus, it's been reported that she insists on complete and total control and having an 80 year old with no knowledge of computers might just "jib" with her shady agenda.

QUOTE:
"Kitzinger said shortly before the press conference, Nickolaus "showed us different tapes where numbers seemed to add up, though I have no idea where the numbers were coming from. I was not told of the magnitude of this error, just that she had made one. I was then instructed that I would not say anything at the press conference, and was actually surprised when I was asked questions by reporters."

It looks like Nickolaus' modus operandi is, "Shut up and do what you're told" which is the endearing style of, Scott Walker, too.

Quoting Sue's post:
"why hasn't the local press been camping out on her doorstep?"

Makes you wonder, doesn't it.....

@CT
Right !! LOL LOL
Kloppy won't admit defeat. Even after Prosser "officially" wins (which in my eyes he has) she won't admit it, she'll just fade into the night. No oops, no explanations...nada !

Dear Randy 1949.
It seems that is fine for the left to be uncivil (Kloppenburgs ads and refusal to ask that it be pulled. All the words that have come out of the left for the last 2 months, the trashing of our capital building by the union thugs and their cohorts and on and on and you want us to be civil??
Why?
As a talk show host said the Monday before the election is that we need (the right) to come out swinging. For way too long the right has been nice. No more
We can not be nice because if we continue on being nice we will be totally ruled by the left.

@Randy1949

You don't have little "love names" for anybody? That's sad! It's always fun to come up with nicknames and that certainly wasn't derogatory. I mention the Tea Party now...do you defend them, too? Hope so, 'cuz I've seen and heard some really mean things be said about 'em!

PS BOTH camps were ready to call for "recounts"...it was in the paper.

The right thing for Kloppenburg to do would be to concede and congratulate Prosser on his victory, but I am not holding my breath. I am not expecting this to be over any time soon.... and I doubt that it will be the last we hear about Kloppenburg. Could she run against one of the recalled senators? Scary, but possible?

The ad should have been pulled (and she should have endorsed pulling it because although she didn't make it, it was for her) the ad was wrong and the victim came out against it. Where have you been.
The protests were mostly peaceful? What kool aid are you drinking? When I watch a women carrying a baby climb into a window with that baby late at night. That isn't peaceful. When people have no respect for what is going inside the chambers yelling and screaming over the proceedings. That is not peaceful. When the protestors leave trash all over the grounds and don't bother cleaning up after themselves that is not peaceful. When people go to politicians houses and harass the children and the neighbors that is not peaceful.

Any more things you would like me to demonstrate that what the left has done to show it's not peaceful (Oh and the bringing of grammar school children to the statehouse and using a bullhorn disrupting all business going on inside is not peaceful. Writing f--- walker on bathroom walls are not peaceful

Vote on ballot, place in machine. LATER, check ballots & machine. ELECTION results. PERIOD. How can you "never be sure" when the two will be compared? Common sense. These votes were not in someone's back seat (Al Franken), but simply NOT REPORTED. I don't care who you voted for, it is quite simple. On to better things, like checking all those THOUSANDS of new voter ballots in Madison where the only vote was for Supreme Court Justice and nothing else...makes you go, hmmmm...

@Randy1949

By saying you don't do the "thing", you are wrong...you just did it.

Oh Randy, Randy You must not have actually been to the Capitol.
I was there..... Those protesters were NOT peaceful. Ok there may have been one or two out of THOUSANDS, but most of them were the animals you saw on TV. We went to a rally & didn't even have any signs. They spit on us, pushed us, screamed in our ears. Had a bullhorn 10n feet from us..blasting in our ears. We did NOTHING to them, we were just there to show support. I will be attending the rally this Sat, we'll see how "civil" & "peaceful" they are.
I'm sure there are idiots on both sides but ...the left seems to have won 1st prize this time.

As for a little name calling...CT is right.

So much for all those unions standing in solidarity with the cops, firefighters and teachers in Wisconsin. The AFL-CIO and the California Teachers Union have come out and endorsed convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal. Jamal shot and killed Officer Daniel Faulkner, at point blank range in December of 1981, and now he's getting all kinds of support from the same unions who supposedly love police officers.

Oh, those loveable, huggable union thugs. Give me a warm fuzzy, while they draw Hitler mustaches on signs with pictures of Government officials in Wisconsin that they don't like.

3 items that should be adressed,
First I am a libertarian/leaning conservative who believes Kathy Nickolaus should resign for not being vary good at her job.
Second, a report to the AP is not a final election resault, counties have until friday to finish final counts, maybe we should not be in such a rush to get information out and be more focused on getting it right
Finally, this website did have the right brookfield totals on election night.
"Brookfield Patch had obtained the city's votes for Supreme Court from the city clerk on election night and posted them in a story and chart about four hours after the polls closed."
there was no intention of hiding votes and votes did not just appear if this site had access to them. The AP had bad information for a period of time, thats it.

Now I see why from these posts why Wisconsin is in such a mess. No wonder that Paul Ryan, Scott Walker and Michelle Bachmann all got elected in the Midwest. Most of you people are about as intelligent as dirt. You are disrespectful and misinformed. This clerk made a huge error, rather it be a simple miscalculation or not, you should all be asking for an investigation. Not because you are a democrat or a republican, but because this woman has a history of this type of behavior. She is obviously not competent and she should be fired. As for the disrespectful name calling, grow up.....that is why you all look like you do to the rest of the world. Kathy Nickolaus mistakes make your state looks like incompetence plain and simple. The rest of the world is watching and laughing at the Republicans in your state because of these types of attitudes and mistakes.

Scott Walker gave himself a $40,000.00 a year raise in his budget plan. He hired a lobbyist son, who is 27, has two drunk driving convictions and only a high school diploma over two very qualified applicants. He started this man out at over $60 thousand a year and then raised him up to over $80 thousand. After it came to light he also now calls it a "mistake". So much for shared sacrifice on his part. He takes from the middle class and gives to himself and his cronies. And you Republicans think he is good for Wisconsin? Unethical elections and unethical governors. I pity Wisconsin and all the hard working peoople who are being vilianized by the Republican party in Wisconsin.

Wow! A whole lot about nothing going on here. Fire the clerk and get over it. I am not a believer in conspiracies, but I do believe in incompetence. You can't lose one battle and claim you've lost the war. There are more battles to come and it's going to take a great deal of energy, so don't spend all your energies fighting about things already past. People need to clam down and get a grip. Claims and counter claims, name calling; all it leads to is further alienation and division. We are going to need each other to get through these tough times.

Cinnamon2
Yes she made mistakes and yes she has made them in the past. And I agree that she should be suspended , fined whatever. That doesn't invalidate the count. The brookfield clerk verified the counts as acurate And again it didn't matter except to the democrats and to the news media because what she reported WAS NOT OFFICIAL. I also guess by your standards Charlie Rangel is OK for all his mistakes and this women needs to go?

Also Scott Walker DIDn't hire the guy or rather promote the guy. Now don't go there and say that it was his responsibilty to over see who gets hired because we can go far with Presidents Obama's pick of people.
As soon as Walker heard about it he demoted him back to where he was working (supposedly before Walker took office) and the guy actually didn't show up back to work.

And you talk about Republicans? How much do you want to talk about Rod Blagoavich the ex governor of Illinois. How about all the voter fraud in Chicago? Along with Jesse Jackson and company

SHow about reading this article by Politifact.com on Walker giving himself a raise. That is a little ludicrous isn't it?
When can a single person in government give themselves a raise?

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2010/oct/29/advancing-wisconsin/group-says-gop-gubernatorial-candidate-scott-walke/

Lyle I agree with you 100% but in my defense I was replying to Cinnamon2
in where she said
That's all I was doing. This country has issues as well as other states and she implied that it is only Wisconsin that has issues with Republicans

Cinnamon2
5:41pm on Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Scott Walker gave himself a $40,000.00 a year raise in his budget plan. He hired a lobbyist son, who is 27, has two drunk driving convictions and only a high school diploma over two very qualified applicants. He started this man out at over $60 thousand a year and then raised him up to over $80 thousand. After it came to light he also now calls it a "mistake". So much for shared sacrifice on his part. He takes from the middle class and gives to himself and his cronies. And you Republicans think he is good for Wisconsin? Unethical elections and unethical governors. I pity Wisconsin and all the hard working peoople who are being vilianized by the Republican party in Wisconsin.

Cinnamon2 is a Huffpo Super-User...that should tell you all you need to know.

I just started going on blogs this last week after having a little surgery when I got bored. I started reading all the "news" on AOL. That's where I saw her (or his) name pop up...mostly the liberal & progressive articles, and by that user name, along with "Huffpo Super-User"...I think I only noticed it because I was eating a cinnamon biscuit at the time, otherwise, it probably wouldn't have clicked.

You know, I was typing and just before I hit send, I realized I switched the sentence around...didn't feel like fixing and, BAM! You caught it!

When you need a good laugh, read the comments on the Huffpo late at night. Those crazy college kids! Starcraft must have crashed their desktop compoopers and then they only have their notebooks! Just wait until they have to get jobs and head into the real world...we'll see how they feel about things then. When the eyes grow weary from reading the rants and the guts feel like they are about to burst from all the "gimmee, gimmee, gimmee's, I watch Red Eye (it's on at 2:00 am)...that is an AWESOME show.

@CT...They don't need jobs as long as they can play video games in their parent's basement and wait for the jobs come to them arranged by their distraught parents.

Liz Ratke protested in madison, hates Governor Walker and has posted LOTS of pictures about it on flickr...just so you know.

OOOps, Rathke...sorry for the incorrect spelling on a prior post.

Gee liz rathke what cloud are you on? Oh better yet since you know (it seems) all about Madison what are you smoking? So kloppenburg doesen't have the support of the unions? Theh why did the unions give her 3 million dollars and there are union supporters on her facebook page?

Let's be clear, if Kathy was African American and this "voter find" happened in Milwaukee., Charlie and Markie would be screaming on the air waves day and night. There would already be a full blown Federal investigation in place. Liberals are big chickens when it comes to pushing the envelope not like their conservative counter parts.

@ Earl
Well...................... Kathy is NOT African American
and Waukesha is NOT Milwaukee
so your next question would be what?

anyone want to join us?

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_bd1bd96a-655a-11e0-9c71-001cc4c002e0.html

We plan on attending the "Annual Brat Fest" they have every year.
We love JOHNSONVILLE Brats !

@ Payton
so much for the union boycott of Johnsonville! : ))))

I went out of my way to purchase Johnsonville and Sargento !!
My neighbor is from Madison, actually Middleton, his parents still live there & they have always attended Brat Fest & he said they always will !
Yes, so much for the boycott !! :-))

@Payton

I'm on my way to the store now!

@ C T and Payton
We have had Johnsonville Italian sausages twice this week! And there are more in the freezer! Will be stopping at Kwik Trip to get gas before the end of the week! : )

CT & Diane....You guys both ROCK !! :-)
I was going to have tuna for dinner(time to get back into shape for summer).... Think I'll pull out the Italians instead .....& than go for a run !
Enjoy the afternoon guys !!

@ Payton

I'll hit the treadmill tonight AFTER dinner. I went to the store and the meat case was Johnsonville free...had to ask the Butcher if there were anymore. He went and got some from the freezer and told me that they can't keep the case stocked...they were selling like hotcakes!

@ C T
Oh my Goooooosh! Thanks for posting that!
I will be buying them when I see them and keeping a stock in the freezer!

@ CT
FABULOUS ! I am thrilled to hear they are not "going under" because of the union boycott...LOL
Thnx for sharing !!
Enjoy !!

@ C T
I quoted you on a couple other blogs. Hope you dont mind! Love the smell of the grill!

@Diane, Payton & CT... I am glad you are enjoying your Johnsvilles, Miller, Sargentos and Kwik Trip gas. Those of us on the left can't afford such fare. The only thing we can buy with our food stamps are the brats and cheese, but we'll have to just enjoy the smell from your grills as the smoke drifts to the east. Sounds like all three of you turned on Jeff Wagner's program today. I hope you know how ridiculous you sound. The whole idea of this kind of boycott was ill conceived and those calling for it misread the public sentiment. Even though I'm a "lefty", I wouldn't deny my fellow Wisconsinites the chance to eat the state food washed down by Miller. While you are making the special trip to get your brats, cheese and beer; I know you'll need more fuel for those SUVs. Oh I can almost smell the grills now over hear next to the lake.

@ Lyle
OMG !! Are you kidding???

No lake property here & my "ride" has 135,000 miles on it !!

@Lyle

Johnsonville Sausage, $6.99/3 pounds, Sargento shredded Cheddar, $2.49/pound, Food Club buns, $1.00/8 pc. pkg., gas, $3.89/gallon. Your comments=priceless!

Ps My Ford mini-van is 7 years old, I'm wearing a ratty retro Pepsi sweatshirt that my mom gave me for Christmas in the late 70's, my jeans & tennies are about 3 years old from Kohl's and my spouse and I work a combined total of 90 - 100 hours a week, so a "nice" dinner like the above should be okay. Oh, and if you live in Wisconsin, there's a lake like every 5 miles it seems. I, however, live at the 2 1/2 mile mark...can't smell the waters breeze no how.

@Lyle

Who is Jeff Wagner?

Yes, who is Jeff Wagner Lyle???

Jeff Wagner is a Milwaukee conservative talk show host. he is on 920 I believe. I only catch him on rare occasions. He is a good guy and good conservative

Has anyone else notices that on the other thread about BROWNLOW CAMPAIGN EVENT questions were posed to the treasurer of his campaign by me and absolutely no answers for 2 days now? I'm accusing Jim Brownlow of being a far-left wing nut who was actually trying to garner signature outside my polling place to recall Lazich--and his Treasurer doesn't respond....? He should release a statement: "Jim Brownlow vows to bring ethics and transparency to the 83rd Assembly Seat." For any Conservatives on this thread, I urge you to pop over there and check it out--pretty funny stuff.

@Earl, you made it through your whole rant without saying "the fact is", well done, good sir. I see your race card was taken very seriously, LOL.

So, if I have this correct, the left is calling Kathy N a bumbling fool but is also accusing her of being the evil genius who put the poor 80 yr old Dem in the place she needed to be in order for the GOP to steal the election? Why do none of these lefties point out that the Patch itself in Brookfield posted the election results the night of the election? Does the left point out that Ramona K's most recent statement sure looks like a few lawyers wrote it for her? Is the right posting Ramona's address online now and trying to destroy her now that she is changing her tune? And really, the best you can do for Ramona is the "Uncle Leo From Seinfeld" defense---"I'm old and confused." She didn't sound very confused last week--too bad the left didn't get to her before the press conference. Lastly, have any of you conspiracy theorists actually looked as the Waukesha County numbers--including what the Patch posed on election night?

@ John
You are correct in your statements above. I think this blog has pretty much circled around and around and around - nothing really new. I did see this morning at JSonline that the Democrats are pushing for an investigation - still. I am anxious to hear the Milwaukee numbers when their canvas is complete.

@ Lyle
and the reason for an investigation of 2006.... why? Even more stupid - er !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : ) PROSSER HAS THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES! I agree - move on!

@Lyle. My comments are directed at the wing-nuts on the left who are now forarding grand theories of conspiracy and klandestine meetings etc. The right is WAY beyond just letting it go and moving on--and my guess is you will see a change in the Waukesha County Clerk's Office when things slow down.

@ Lyle
just saw your question to John...
I saw 18 months somewhere so that would be 2012? Do you think PROSSER will be sworn in yet?!?!?!??! I think I would like to be there!

According to an article from a Brookfield paper, her computer was checked as part of the investigation. NO problems were reported and the numbers were the same as those reported from the election.

@ Lyle
LOL
I think you are right!

@Lyle. I can already predict what your side will say about Obama, Ryan, and Walker on the upcoming budget debates. The evil rich people and corporations will be protected by the brainwashed masses and the people like myself that aren't doing enough. The Angelic Obama will have a hard time saving the world because Halliburton just wants Grandma to sit in the gutter, eating bird feed. Those awful rich (who pay 80% + of the total tax burden now) are only interested in themselves and do nothing to advance Social Justice. Pelosi tried hard but Paul Ryan sigged his flying Great Danes, equipped with nuclear waste daisy cutters and lasers that shoot out of thier eyes at school children. Just when Biden woke up long enough to wink, point, and save the day, deleterious Chris Christie jumped out of a Blackwater van and smothered him in a huge pile of big oil money. The whole thing, like 9/11, will have been plotted and choreographed by Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. Al Gore, will leave one his many empty homes, take a private plane and a fleet of limos, to convince everyone that the whole issue can be solved with cap and trade--because global warming is the real problem............

Of course, what we could always do is subsidize energy for those who cannot afford it, because it's all about the children, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQsIBtwUh6Q

@ C T
re: bird food..... it is more than a gallon of gas? sorry.... just had to say it!

Judge Dismisses Suit Challenging Wis. Union Law
MADISON, Wis. -- A judge has dismissed one of three lawsuits filed challenging Wisconsin's divisive law restricting collective bargaining rights.
Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi on Thursday dismissed the lawsuit filed by Democratic Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk saying she does not have standing to bring the action. The judge says state law forbids an agency or arm of government like a county to challenge the constitutionality of state laws.
You can read Judge Sumi's decision by clicking here.
Another lawsuit brought by the Dane County district attorney remains. In that case, Sumi blocked enactment of the law earlier this month while she considers whether state open meetings law was violated in the process of passing the bill.
A third lawsuit challenging the law pushed by Gov. Scott Walker has been brought by firefighters and other public workers.

Here's what I say to Libs on budget issues, try it with me:
Breath in through nose, with mouth closed.
Push air out of mouth through teeth while making soft "p" sound.
Slightly bight lower lip with upper teeth while expelling air from mouth.
End with "f" sound until all the air leaves mouth cavity.

@ bescher
so is that one down, two to go?

Yes Which I thin k it good. Maybe Sumi realizes the error of her ways (NOT)