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Elmbrook to Appeal Church Graduation Lawsuit to the Supreme Court

School Board votes 5-2 to continue to fight suit, which claims district violated the Constitution by holding commencements at Elmbrook Church.

 

The Elmbrook School Board will ask the U.S. Supreme Court to rule on the lawsuit over whether the district violated the U.S. Constitution by holding graduation ceremonies at Elmbrook Church.

In a 5-2 vote on Tuesday, at a meeting at which only one member of the public showed up to express an opinion on the issue, the School Board opted to appeal the July federal appellate court decision that found the district had violated the First Amendment when it held previous graduation ceremonies in the church.

Board members Glen Allgaier, Richard Brunner, Jean Lambert, Meg Wartman, and Tom Gehl voted for the appeal. Board members Kathryn Wilson and Robert Ziegler voted against it.

The district will now evaluate offers from law firms, looking for firms with previous expertise appearing before the nation's highest court. The U.S. Supreme Court will probably decide whether to hear the case in 12 to 18 months, school officials said.

“We did not want this fight. We did not seek this fight. But we are prepared to proceed with the appeal,” said Gehl, who is board president.

District's Costs Capped at $15,000

The district doesn’t expect its costs to exceed $15,000. That’s because several law firms have volunteered to continue the case pro bono. Indeed, the approved motion included language limiting the district's cost in the appeal to that figure.

In its ruling, the court said it was not broadly rejecting governmental use of church spaces, citing legal precedent for churches to be used as polling sites. But it said in this case Elmbrook Church's cross and other religious materials in the presence of the public school graduation ceremony violated the Constitution.

Elmbrook officials have been meeting with their attorney since the July 23 ruling and are considering whether to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

'Not a Matter of Religion or Creed'

Board members, in sometimes emotional speeches, said even though the issue is now moot for the district, the policy question has national implications. However, the two dissenting board members said they didn’t think the appeal was likely to prevail.

Gehl said he and his wife belong to Elmbrook Church. In a passionate speech, Gehl said he supported continuing the appeal. He stressed that he did not doubt the “sincerity” of the plaintiffs who had brought the lawsuit, but  believed it was important for the district to move forward.

“I can look any resident in the eye with comfort and truth and say that the board has evaluated every angle,” Gehl said.

He pointed out that district students originally chose Elmbrook Church as a site for graduation ceremonies back in 1999. “It was not chosen by the board,” he said.

For years, the practice continued. Graduation ceremonies are now held at the Brookfield East High School, however, and the board members said there are no plans to ever move them back to Elmbrook Church now that the district has adequate facilities of its own.

“Members of the board take an oath upon the Constitution, and they take it very seriously,” Gehl said.

He said he believed not appealing the decision would have been tantamount to a statement that students, prior board members, teaching staff, administrators, and community members were in violation of the Constitution. That, he said, he could not do.

“This is not a matter of religion or creed,” Gehl said. He couched his support for an appeal in the 10th Amendment, and said that it was a “matter of political freedom” — of local people and entities being able to make choices and “not have them overturned by the litigious efforts of an outside entity.”

Allgaier said he had wrestled with the issue.

“There are arguments from very intelligent judges on both sides,” he said. Ultimately, he decided to support the appeal because “the ramifications are much broader than our own district. I feel it is important to go to the final court of the land. This has far reaching consequences, and I would like to see it resolved.”

Lambert noted that “a number of qualified law firms have come forward to appeal this at no cost.” She said that she felt the dissenting judges in the federal appellate court decision “make very compelling arguments against the majority opinion.”

Can District Win This Case?

However, Wilson said she did not see far-reaching ramifications nationally or for Elmbrook. “I don’t see us winning this appeal,” she added.

And Ziegler, the other dissenter, encouraged those interested in the topic to read the actual decision. He pointed out that the federal appeals court that ruled 7-3 in July against the district was packed with Republican appointees.

He said there was a “basis” for that decision.

“I think this court was more favorable than the Supreme Court will be,” Ziegler said.

He also noted that “this issue is moot” because the district is holding all graduation ceremonies now at Brookfield East anyway.

However, Superintendent Mark Hansen urged the board to appeal.

“The fiscal risk is below $15,000. The potential public policy here is important. We support the appeal because that point needs clarity from the Supreme Court," he said.

In April 2009, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, filed the lawsuit in federal court on behalf of nine anonymous Elmbrook families claiming the district violated the Constitution.

In July 2010, a federal court granted the school district's motion for summary judgment and dismissed the case. In September 2011, a three-judge federal panel upheld that court's ruling, however, Americans United asked the full 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the case, which ultimately resulted in the July ruling against the district.

  • Did Elmbrook School Board make the right decision to appeal this case to the Supreme Court?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes. The district should fight for what it believes in.
        9 (64%)
    • No. This is a dead issue; let's move on.
        5 (35%)
    • Not sure.
        0 (0%)
    Total votes: 14
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Related Topics: Brookfield Central High School, Brookfield East High School, Church and state, Elmbrook Church, Elmbrook School District, and Graduations in church

Cindy

8:11 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Glad to see them fight! It comes down to the principal of it all. Thanks, school board!

I was thinking about this "Americans United for Separation of Church and State" group when I heard that Oak Creek High School was used to the wake/funeral of some of the victims of the Sikh shooting. Does that bother those people too? Is that a cross of church and state? A church using a public building? Or do they recognize how ridiculous they'd look if they put up a stink about that.

Can't they see that we are all just humans trying to get along and we might use each other's buildings when needed? It is a simple concept. Be nice to your neighbor. Keep your blood pressure down. Life is good, go worry about the poor and sick or something worth putting energy into. That's it.

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Jill berger

10:16 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Would they hold a graduation in the Sikh place of worship? Or in the new mosque that is being built? Highly unlikely.

Many Christians feel that they are the majority and therefore non-Christians should put aside their own beliefs/cultures/values. Graduations celebrate a students accomplishments, mark the end of one life stage and new challenges. Graduations are for ALL students and all of their families. To hold it in any place of worship places an unfair burden on those who hold different beliefs.

In response to Cindy, the use of the public high school for services for the victims of the recent murders at the Sikh temple is not an appropriate comparison. The point is, it is not ok to hold public ceremonies in religious buildings. Respect that all people have religious freedom in this country. We have the right to decide where,when and how to worship.

I can understand that a non-Christian family might have felt quite uncomfortable attending graduation in a church with a crucifix at the front... It is that simple. It shouldn't have happened and hopefully won't happen again.

As for the "why can't we all just get along" theory, The argument might work if there was true tolerance for differences, whether they be religious, racial, ethnic..People often do not respect those who are not in the majority. They are hateful,judgmental and fearful, and at times, violent. The recent shooting in Oak Creek is just one tragic example.

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Noel Williams

9:38 am on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Why does it always seem that the only issue capable of "corrupting the individual" is the concept of Christianity? Why aren't all other belief (including non-belief) seen also as corrupting? Only the secular is said to be non-polluting, and yet when you think of it, that too is an attempt at a belief.

Americans are a lot less fragile than we may think & tolerance demands that we allow ourselves to absorb all sorts of input without falling apart. Isn't that the point of the arts, multi-culturalism, international travel, etc? We see, hear, learn & move on.

The idea that the Christian institutions are going to oppress the "poor individual" is absurde because the "free individual" is capable of deciding what he/she likes - we just need to figure out how to respect their choice.

FIGHT ON - let's get this separation concept settled once & for all.

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Randy1949

1:30 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@Noel Williams -- The secular is not promoting any belief. It is completely neutral on the subject.

Randy1949

1:26 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

I don't recall if the recent decision involved a monetary penalty for Elmbrook Schools. If it did not, I cannot believe that the school board is willing to spend $15,000 of the property taxpayers' money just to prove a point.

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Noel Williams

5:43 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

This will sound strange Randy, but no belief is a belief. You get to decide what is said to be "the belief", then you reject or oppose it. If your issue is the "promotion", then my question is, why would the mere manifestation of the fruits of a belief system be considered "promotion"? I thought that was considered a "life style". It is great in some areas (in the case of being gay, for instance), but not in others (as in being Christian).

Spend your time making these distinctions and you will find you actually have a belief.

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Randy1949

5:52 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@Noel Williams -- Assume for the moment that the American Atheists had a really fancy auditorium, and above their podium, in really big letters is the saying, "There Is No God". That's the promotion of a belief.

Assume your child were graduating in that venue and the photo of him or her receiving the diploma would include those words. Would you be happy?

Public facilities (secular) simply remain mute on any question of religion. They promote no one belief system above another.

M

11:54 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

I live in Brookfield and my daughter attends an Elmbrook school. I'm pretty open minded about religion - I have many wonderful friends with many different religious beliefs. But I would feel extremely uncomfortable (to the point where I wouldn't be able to attend) if I was forced to attend graduation at Elmbrook Church. The School Board should have seen the HUGE potential problem when the venue was first suggested and avoided it. Especially if there were other options. Their decision to appeal is all about pride (and perhaps a little ignorance too)

There has been a lot of talk (much of it painful to read) about the Constitution. When I went to UW Law School, Constitutional Law was a required, intense, two semester course. I learned a lot. I wish others would really study the Constitution before they start spouting off about it.

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Randy1949

10:01 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

@M -- I was not fortunae enough to have attended law school or taken a semester of Constitutional law. I wish I had. My layperson's call on this issue is that the case is borderline. I know we're assured freedom of religion. Are we assured freedom from religion? That will depend on the makeup of SCOTUS at any given point in time.

Holding a public ceremony in a venue that refuses to remove obvious religious symbolism does 'play favorites' by assuming that the majority is Christian and everyone else should just accept it with good grace. The broader meaning of the Establishment clause is that on one's religion is better than another's, and we shouldn't have to.

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