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Does Obama Really Care About Education?

I am glad I missed the State of the Union. As I read through it the next morning, and it would have driven me nuts to hear the same tired old rant of bad ideas.

I could go point by point on how he is wrong or being deceptive on everything he said, but that would take too long for one article. He continues to ignore his major issues of debt, deficits, and reforming entitlements. But what I want to discuss here is, while he refuses to deal with the most important national issues, he wants to fix local public education. The guy who’s budget was shot down 97-0 in the Senate last year wants to fix state budgets.

First let’s dispense with the idea he is proposing bailing out state school budgets because he wants to improve education. He states he wants to “… replace teachers who just aren’t helping kids learn.” This is in conflict with his opposition to reforms to eliminate the corrupt system of collective bargaining in the public sector or at least limit that power, as Scott Walker has. He should watch “Waiting for Superman” and then maybe he would understand why ending the corrupt system is the first step to allowing creative ideas to improve education to work.

Of course, as with all Democrat politicians, their top concern is not the kids, it is the unions getting money to fund their campaigns. In addition to this, Obama pushed through Obamacare, which will force states in coming years to spend 100s millions or billions more on health care programs. By that law, he is forcing states to choose health care programs over education in their already tight budgets.

On top of this, he is proposing a minimum tax rate of 30 percent for high income earner’s which will reduce the attractiveness of municipal bonds and increase the borrowing costs for local governments. Again, if he was really concerned about keeping teachers in the classroom, he would have suggested all states follow Walker’s lead to go after root cause of the budget problems of too large of health and pension obligations.

What he wants is the same bailout he did with stimulus. He could try to justify this on the basis that states run by incompetent Democrats, like Illinois and California, will hurt the nation as they spiral downward. Even then, you would have to demand reform as a condition of giving the money, such as requiring ending collective bargaining and reductions in pension and health care obligations. Otherwise another onetime infusion of money to states would be like giving beer to an alcoholic. The Federal Budget is not quite balanced, so they cannot afford a new permanent program outside its own area of responsibility.

Obama, state Democrats, and teachers unions have the same problem, they are mainly concerned with the adults in the education system. Obama and the Democrats want to ensure they get the money from teachers unions. The unions want to make sure dues are mandatory, so they can ensure a stream of money to buy off politicians. Unions also want to fight to ensure that, if there is a choice, that we chose layoffs rather than reductions in benefits. Both want to fight reforms such as school choice that give parents more options. Obama should give up on this idea and let the states follow a real leader that we have here in Wisconsin, Scott Walker.

Nameless

3:26 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

The state of the union was a nice appeasement to conservatives but as always proved how out of touch the guy is with realistic goals.

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Nate

10:58 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012

About Nate
I'm ultra conservative and proud of it. I believe in free speech no matter what little feelings you liberals have. I love our country and work hard without feeling the need to cry out and recall our officials.
Most likely you're just one of the sheep that follows your union boss, likes to smoke weed and get welfare. You often protest by yelling your dumb childish chants and pooping all over the place. You're a communist and want all the rich people to give you what they worked hard to achieve.
You will burn in hell one day and I'll be roasting marsh mellows.

Steve

3:28 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Notice how Bryant writes an opinion piece that is free from name calling and uses concise non emotional language?

Now compare that to a liberal

http://menomoneefalls.patch.com/blog_posts/show-scotty-the-money

►What a hypocrite! What a creep. And what a slime ball. I have a hunch that the FBI John Doe investigation is creeping up onto his doorstep and soon we will all be getting a peek into what kind of dirty, morbid skeletons he is keeping in his closet.◄

►Michigan, another state run by another right-wing nut job who thinks with his wallet first, his campaign second, and the people somewhere way down the frickin' line.◄

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Nameless

4:44 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

All he has to do is leave it up to me. Don't think Obama doesn't love education. He saw Walker's approval rating and had to bash teachers somehow to look credible.

DJ Bradley

5:14 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

What would you recommend Bryant? I am a Lefty, and I will tell you that President Obama's Race to the Top is just as horrible for education as was President Bush's No Child Left behind. Every education reform is based on increasing test scores. Essentially teachers HAVE to teach to the test, lest the kid actually learn something that is not on the test such as reasoning skills, art, or music. And very soon the kids' scores on these tests will be part of the teacher evaluation process--a la Gov. Walker. Sounds good on the surface, however this will drive teachers to ONLY teaching the test. Look at the test cheating scandals around the country, and you see what is becoming of our testing culture. We are not raising a generation of thinkers, we are raising a generation of test takers. I'll write clearer next time, but people outside of the educational realm are so in the dark about what is really going on in schools.

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Bryant Divelbiss

5:54 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

I do not know enough about race to the top to comment, but that is not what he pushed in stimulus, cash for Democrats in Aug 2010, last year in his so called jobs bill, or is hinting at in SOTU. What he he pushing is giving more money to bail out states which is wasteful,useless, and not needed as I point out above. I would suggest eliminating the Department of Education and block granting the money to the states. I would recommend repealing Obamacare to not force more money for health care and less for education, side note if we do not get rid of Obamacare too many will be hooked on Government to ever avoid a fiscal nightmare like Italy only worse since we can not be bailed out.

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Bryant Divelbiss

5:59 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

I also recommend everyone watch "Waiting for Superman" to understand why limiting or eliminating collective bargaining is the first step to improving education, especially in troubled districts like MPS. But still it just creates the tools the leaders will have to start caring more about the kids than the adults like the unions.

DJ Bradley

6:27 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Sidenote: Obamacare as its known was supported by conservatives as recently as the 90s. Having seen people I know die from lack of health care after exhausting both insurance and a sizable sum of money, I'm inclined to support free health care. As for the cost of it, that's spilled milk in the form of the goo gobs (technical term) of money we have given and spent in Iraq and Afghanistan.

To the educational piece, he is not bailing out states. What he is doing is offering fed money tied to school performance and proven reform; much along the same lines as how Gov. Walker wants to eliminate collective bargaining so the talented teachers can get paid for their performance, and the not so talented don't just get extra money for breathing. Imagine that, Walker and Obama advocating the same direction---but having both their aims manipulated by those with something to gain.

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Bryant Divelbiss

9:28 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

I felt the movie correctly showed the obstruction unions are to improving schools. It did not demonize teachers. The point was quite the opposite that a good teacher was important. Now I do think there are some other issues not dealt with but it makes a compelling point that teachers unions have fought reform and clearly hurt education quality. Allowing public sector unions is corruption as they can buy off politicians, as we saw in Wisconsin with every Democrat so sold out they left the state and would not come back. Management in the private sector goes to jail if they accept money from unions to get a better deal. That makes the issue of private sector unions different.

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Bryant Divelbiss

9:39 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Employer surveys show 30% of employers plan to dump employees into exchanges in the first 5 years which will cost trillions more than planned. The point is with all those people dependent on the government there will be no hope of making needed reforms to Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, and SS to avoid the worst fiscal disaster. It is hard to predict when but both sides know it will happen without serious changes. In the end the people you want to help will be hurt along with everyone else at that point. Clearly it was a huge act of irresponsibility to add a new health care program when they have no idea how pay for the ones we have or the new program. Free healthcare sounds good until you deal with the hard part, How to pay for it?

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Bryant Divelbiss

9:50 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Since Obama's speech just said give resources and he always repeats his mistakes one would assume he meant the same lame ideas in his 2011 "Jobs Plan". That was $35 billion to rehire teachers and $30 billion for school repairs similar to stimulus and cash for Democrats which was used by states as a temporary fix for budgets or a bail out for states that actually required not fixing real problems. Neither is a Federal responsibility and were being done to relieve pressure on unions to accept cuts so the money keep flowing to Democrats. As we have seen when the corruption of collective bargaining is controlled schools can keep the teachers and spend less money. Other states could follow Walker's lead eliminating the need for a $35 billion federal rehiring program.

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Lyle Ruble

7:58 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012

@Bryant Divelbiss...Anyone who has watched "Waiting for Superman" that hasn't come away disgusted with the public education system, is missing the most important point; we are supporting the wrong kind of system. The current education system is still training students to enter into an economic system that no longer exists. It is not that the teachers are bad, although the movie severely discounts teachers, it is to point out a broken system without any workable solutions. It only calls for reforming the negotiating powers and cost controls. It is not real reform, which means overhauling the entire system, from goals, missions and defining the desired outcome. To structurally change the system is to mirror the education systems found in Northern Europe being the real answer. There is more than enough money to fund such a system.

I wonder if those who will be selecting school board members in the upcoming election really understand how you feel about education. If they end up voting for your wife they will in effect be voting for your opinions and misunderstandings.

The starting point was concerning education and you moved the discussion to healthcare. I agree there are many problems with the Affordability Act as it stands, but we must move to universal healthcare. We spend twice as much for healthcare and have some of the worst outcomes for tier one nations. We have too many citizens who suffer and die needlessly because of a lack of affordable healthcare.
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Lyle Ruble

8:02 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012

(continued) Bryant Divelbiss...Your only answer to anything is to stay the course and cut money to government programs. You have absolutely no new solutions. Your only answer is old and failed ideas and policies.

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Randy1949

10:20 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012

@DJ Bradley -- paying good teachers extra is a laudable goal, if there were any way of objectively judging who is a 'good' teacher. Average test scores surely don't do it. Imagine a surgeon who has a 70% mortality rate. He may be a terrible surgeon who kills his patients, OR he may be a brilliant surgeon who takes on the hardest cases and saves seven out of ten where a lesser doctor may have lost nine out of ten.

A good teacher takes on the most challenged of students and helps each one to reach their potential, even if that potential is moderately literate. They reach that one student in the class who is capable of marvelous things,and all without killing the love of learning. You simply can't quantify that.

A good principal may recognize a teacher like that and retain them, even reward them. A venal principal, faced with a tight budget may opt for quantity over quality.

That was the one part of President Obama's speech that disappointed me.

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Nameless

3:12 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012

Randy put up a fine analogy and explanation. People dismiss a lot of public education as dysfunctional but has anyone analyzed private? A lot of bureaucracy, especially faith based enterprises; example Catholic. Walker has nothing on the Archdioceses.

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Bryant Divelbiss

2:14 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012

Lyle, whatever is needed in public education reform the first step would be getting the control to do that. That was the most important take away from the movie, that the union fights hard any reform. Walker has given schools that power that is step one. Now they need people with the right reform and the will to do it. If they still just want to please the adults it will never happen.

DJ Bradley

6:29 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

I have seen Waiting for Superman, and I think it demonizes the teaching profession---just my personal perspective. As for your anti-union stance, I have both been in a union, and managed a union shop--and honestly torn about how I feel about unions.

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tbs

8:31 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012

Nice commentary Bryant! So refreshing to read. Waiting for Superman was NOT anti-teacher,it was anti-union. The union protects bad teachers. Waiting for Superman showed how unions corrupt the system...union are all about power and $$$ and not the children and NOT elevating the teaching profession or improving our schools. Obama is on the side of unions and that makes him anti-education reform. Scott Walker is on the side of the people and his policies give school districts the tools to balance their budgets, PROMOTE great teachers, support school reform and is on the side of our children...especially those in our urban school districts. I encourage anyone who cares about education to see Waiting for Superman and you would be so proud that we finally have a governor that had the GUTS to take on the union machine.

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JayZee

3:20 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012

This article is typical of right wing MSM bias! It willfully overlooks Mr Obama's personal achievements. Did you know that Mr Obama is about to do something that NO OTHER sitting President has ever been able to do? Well, at his current rate of improvement, Barack is likely to be the VERY FIRST President IN HISTORY to break 80 at Pebble Beach! Yep, that's right - despite all the negative comments, Mr Obama has steadily and sure-handedly reduced his handicap from an ordinary 16 to an extraordinay 2! No thanks to complainers like you! Have you ever had to line up a 30 foot putt with this country's rabble protesting their unemployment? How can you visualize your drive when some malcontent is crying about having her house foreclosed? And how are Barack and Michelle supposed to enjoy their Winter Concert series when these "haters" in Congress won't rubberstamp yet another multi-trillion increase in the debt ceiling??? Szeech!

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Nameless

3:44 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012

Now that's rich. Tiger Woods would choke under all that. Ironically their both half-and half's.

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Nameless

8:23 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012

Sorry about that, I was bated, not to mention just had to squeeze by to meet my quota for the week.

Michele Divelbiss

9:54 am on Monday, January 30, 2012

Lyle, are you trying to say that I'm not smart enough to serve on the school board without my husband telling me what to think? I can assure you I form my own opinions. I have spent the last year and a half attending nearly every Menomonee Falls School Board meeting. I also have a teaching license in special education and I have subbed for the district. I have seen much of what makes Menomonee Falls an excellent school system and that includes many fabulous teachers. I am running for school board because I believe in public education. I may not be a serial commenter on Patch, but trust me when I say I know a thing or two about education.

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