Mark. the more talk about potential voter fraud there is the more harm there is to the elective system. there will always be people who test the system to see if they can get away with it. there is no proof that there is a concerted political effort to taint the upcoming elections. voter suppression is much more important because it precludes normal American people from voting. Although our system is not foolproof it is the best there is. Cordially. Dick Steinberg. Valparaiso 1955.

Mark: I have been called on the day of prior elections, offering me a ride to the polls. They first asked who I would be voting for, and I lied to see where they would go from there. This is when they offered me a ride to cast my vote.
Am I breaking any law by accepting the ride, casting my vote for the other party, and walking out the back door to leave the driver waiting for me?

A couple points about your example of the OFA worker:
1. No votes were actually cast.
2. O'Keefe heavily edited the video and won't release the undoctored version. He is well known for 'creative' editing.
So once again there is no evidence of voting fraud.

When the Koch boys and Dave Siegel threaten their employes with layoffs if the president is reelected,is that not a bribe,or the very least voter intimidation?

If all of these people can come up with enough ID to recieve what they recieve on the taxpayer funded parasite programs they should be able to come up with proper ID to vote with.This is a scam at best another way the parasites can leech of the system thumbing thier noses at the providers.

A liberal aquaintence of mine informed me about a group he is a part of, who has kept track of all deaths in the past two years. The group is recruiting people to cast votes in the name of the dead people.
I know this is a crime, but is it punishable by more than a slap on the wrist?

Voter fraud is a very real problem, whether people care to admit to it or not. Hoffa personally witnessed voter fraud while in college, whereby many of his fellow dorm-mates would return home to vote in their home districts (or vote by absentee ballot in their home districts) while also voting under the their residence in the dorms, thus permitting them to vote twice in the same election. There was actually a concerted effort by the campus college democrats to do this on a regular basis.

When Hoffa reported having personally witnessed such activity taking place to the local police and DA's office, he was told that they weren't interested in pursuing such a trivial matter.

Measuring the amount of voter fraud taking place by the number of convictions on the books is as accurate as measuring the amount of littering that takes place premised upon the number of convictions of the books! It's little more than a red-herring argument from the left!

Protect the sanctity of our elections - demand Voter ID!

There is no law or penalty for a citizen not having an ID. of course, life is easier if you have one. The statement that a violation of the election laws will cause concern to the District Attorney is not always true.

There is no law that says a citizen of the USA must have a voter ID and there is no criminal penalty for not having one.

I love Ruble and his famous, delicious red herrings. Liberals toss that term around so often when there's a cover up. I'm surprised Barrack Hussein didn't call the embassy attack one yet. Any ways, I'll agree that voter fraud isn't a huge problem...yet. It does exist though Lyle, you can not deny that.

Voter intimidation, voter caging, and voter registration fraud, as the GOP employee in Virginia has just been arrested for, are significantly more widespread and damaging than the virtually non-existing voting fraud that the right wing is perpetually caterwauling about. If Republicans were really interested in the "integrity" of the electoral process, they wouldn't hire contractors who have been guilty of registration fraud in the past to conduct their registration drives. (Yes, it is ILLEGAL to collect voter registration and decide to discard ones you don't like). Republicans would scream bloody murder at the 100% predictable (and ILLEGAL) fliers circulated in minority districts, informing everyone of the incorrect election day. They would be incensed at the idea of some extremist group sending "poll watchers" with the purpose to harass and intimidate voters, and to otherwise create confusion at the polls. These illegal activities have a much greater impact on election integrity than any degree of voter fraud ever has or ever will. Vote suppression tactics are a shame to any community that considers itself a democracy. Anyone who abides voter suppression has no right to consider himself part of a democracy. Any institution that abides voter suppression has no place in our public arena.

for clarification, it is not illegal to not have an ID, voter or otherwise. the idea of a voter ID is limited to voting. non-voters do not need one. there are just some people for whatever who do not have a voter ID, i.e., disabled, cannot travel, is a student, is employed where frequent travel is necessary, has no transportation, etc.

You know the liberals motto? Vote early and vote often!

We need to go back to the concept of having to own property in order to vote. Why should someone who does actually pay taxes in this town be able to vote for someone who is going to determine the level of taxes the minority of us property owners pay? Is that fair? I say not, since they do not have a reasonable self-interest in how residents are taxed. I also feel the same way about income taxes. Should anyone who does not actually pay income taxes be able to elect those who will set the income tax rates and determine how tax dollars are spent? Democracy will fail when the people discover they can vote themselves money....it already has.

I have no problem with having an ID or drivers license to vote. what is the system for the honest good American citizens who go to vote and have none. no disrespect but my wife changes purses causing a search for her license ID. I can also imagine a person leaving a medical office or a hospital and cannot find the ID after being required to give it up for photocopying. and...........have you ever heard "where's my wallet?". can these people vote and is it counted ?

Before it was exposed as a radical dishonest group working for Democrats, ACORN worked in Wisconsin for years. This is only one of the reasons we need photo ID for honest elections.

Can't we stop this destructive line of conversation?
Human beings are not inherently evil."Voter Fraud" has been manufactured by the word-smithing researchers the Republicans, Tea Party Radicals, and Randians have all paid to scare the be-jeezus out of us during an election.
I quote old M.H. again, since I see evidence all the more frequently on patch.com:
"What is most thought-provoking in this thought-provoking time is that we are still not thinking."
Misdirection and fear- these are the most common components of the targeted and segmented messages blanketing the nation. Tubal Detoxification is a must before election day. Somehow we have allowed free rein to the richest so that they might be able to buy the helm of the Ship of State.
The lies, distortion of facts, misdirection, and subtle-, and overt-, fear-mongering has gone so far as to warrant facing criminal charges for the content.
Isn't the election really about the morals, ethics, and social contract that we say that we want with one another in our nation? It appears to be that black and white (no: no pun intended, for the bigots such as NOBAMA). Namely, we are asked to choose between a sitting president who has brought us far from the ruins of Republican Hell, a president who believes in supporting a goal of a sustainable planet and an inclusionary democratic republic. The Romney Ryan ticket by contrast embraces and idolizes the Ayn Rand immoral ethics of Objectivism.
It really is that simple, isn't it?

craig. thats ok but what if the student has to travel back and miss more classes, or the disabled person cannot get a ride back or just does not come back after the election is over ?

A question to my conservative friends: If the Democrats should prevail will you blame it on voter fraud?

Interesting article.

Deb Bush ‏@DebBush1

Can the GOP win without lies? The man behind the voter fraud myth http://www.salon.com/2012/10/22/the_man_behind_the_voter_fraud_myth/ … via @Salon #WIUnion

...And on von Spakovsky’s book, which presents the following conspiracy theory:

“’Who’s Counting?’ opens with an insinuating account of how Al Franken, the Minnesota Democrat, was elected to the Senate in 2008. According to the book, there is ‘compelling’ evidence, compiled by a citizens’ watchdog group, that ’1,099 ineligible felons voted illegally’ in the contest—’more than three times’ Franken’s victory margin. The subhead of the chapter is ‘Would Obamacare have passed without voter fraud?’

Fox News and other conservative media outlets have promoted this argument. However, Mike Freeman, the Hennepin County Attorney, who oversees Minneapolis, told me, ‘Those numbers are fraudulent. We investigated, and at the end of the day, out of over four hundred allegations in the county, we charged thirty-eight people. Their research was bad, sloppy, incredible. They are just liars.’”

Jan ‏@Janbroni

In 18 seconds, Tommy Thompson shows he has no understanding of the debt, Medicare, or Social Security. http://pccc.me/RdEvbs #p2 #wiunion

The Overpass Light Brigade does fantastic work.

I heard on the news that Clear channel will be taking down these vile billboards.

@Progress2day

.@OLBLightBrigade Responds to Voter Suppression in #Milwaukee & Clear Channel Billboards http://bit.ly/Seg6T3 #wiunion #wiright #p2 #p2b

rotflol: the morals of Ayn Rand, the distortion and misdirection and lies of Ryan and Romney: those are real issues that should be of concern to all of us.
But there are those of you who applaud these issues, and so I can only say more power to you - I hope you recover.
Even more than before after reading this, l feel compelled again to share this apothegm from Heidegger: "What is most thought-provoking in this thought-provoking time is we are still not thinking."
What is more worrisome than some fear being promulgated by the Tea Party and Republicans about "voter fraud" is the proven fact that certain very visible uber-wealthy Republicans such as the Koch Bros., who are threatening their employees
by telling them they will lose their jobs if the President wins re-election. That is a horrible and unfair threat; and, it is a danger to our free election process.
- @CowDung, since you called me out 2x's, I can only surmise that you prefer the immoral to the ethical. How's that working out for you? at home? with your wife and kids? at your job? Over time it won't!
My hope and my prayers are that more people see the truth and stay the course with Obama. best to all/ngp

Voter fraud billboards that drew complaints of racism and intimidation will come down, Clear Channel says

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/voter_fraud_billboards_that_dr.html

Patrick O'Donnell, The Plain Dealer By Patrick O'Donnell, The Plain Dealer
on October 21, 2012 at 12:00 AM, updated October 22, 2012 at 8:33 AM


Donaldson, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio --,,,,

Jim Cullinan, a spokesman for Clear Channel Outdoor, said the billboards will come down immediately. He said the company continues its donation of 10 other billboards that will have messages to counter the offending ones...

Cleveland's black community and civil rights activists begain complaining earlier this month about the billboards, which state that voter fraud is punishable by up to 3½ years in prison and a $10,000 fine. The ads also show a gavel.

The Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, a voting advocacy group based in Washington, D.C., noted that the billboards were placed in predominantly Hispanic and black neighborhoods in Cleveland, as well as in Cincinnati and Milwaukee.,,

,,,,Opponents had already negotiated with Clear Channel to have the company donate use of 10 billboards that will be visible Monday and carry the message

"Voting Is a Right. Not a Crime!" Cleveland City Council will pay for five more to carry the same message.....more..

http://mediatrackers.org/2012/10/23/partisan-brochures-found-inside-polling-place/