UPDATE: Brookfield Woman Cited in Dispute with Recall Petitioner

The woman allegedly grabbed and pushed the same Recall Gov. Scott Walker petitioner whose camera was grabbed in another disorderly conduct case last month.

Editor's note: This story was updated 8:20 p.m. Jan. 9 to include comments from recall petitioner and at 9:27 p.m. to add information from Fox6now.com.

A Brookfield woman was cited for disorderly conduct Saturday after she allegedly grabbed and pushed the same Recall Walker petitioner whose camera was grabbed in another disorderly conduct case last month, police say.

The petitioner, Waukesha resident Steve Nagel, says he did nothing to inflame Walker supporters in either incident, other than to pull out his camera and videotape them when he thought they were going to create trouble.

"I was trying to avoid this lady," Nagel told Brookfield Patch, but added: "She came up and hit me. She hit me right in the arm."

"That's crossing the line," he said. "I'm not there to argue or demonstrate. We're just out there to gather signatures."

The woman, Linda Lorino, 47, was issued a non-criminal municipal citation for disorderly conduct, a ticket that carries a maximum $492 forfeiture. No one was at her home Monday afternoon and Patch could not reach her for comment.

But Lorino told Fox6 reporter Jeremy Ross that she didn't hit him but she regretted her actions and wanted to apologize to Nagel.

"I am five foot two, 118 pounds. I like, moved his arm away. It would be like brushing a bug out of your face," Lorino said in the Fox6now.com story. "I apologize to the gentleman if it caused him any embarrassment. I'm embarrassed."

Twice in the last month, Nagel has told police he has been harassed while collecting signatures to on sidewalks along busy Bluemound Road in Brookfield.

Saturday's incident occurred about 1:40 p.m. north of Qdoba restaurant, 16005 W. Bluemound Rd. A month ago, a Brookfield man was for allegedly grabbing Nagel's camera before giving it back Dec. 10 outside the Brookfield Fashion Center, 17000 W. Bluemound Rd.

Steve Spierkerman, also of Waukesha, was volunteering with Nagel both times, although he arrived shortly after Saturday's incident occurred.

"It seems to me that the people who come up to us and take our picture, they think that's perfectly all right," Spierkerman told Brookfield Patch. "But if we take their picture, they get angry."

According to the latest police reports:

Lorino was accused of approaching Nagel who was videotaping her, yelling at him, grabbing his arm and pushing him against a car as another person was signing the petition to recall Walker.

Lorino left in her car and recall petitioners gave police the license plate number. Police Capt. Jim Adlam said she was cooperative when interviewed.

Nagel gave this account:

He said Lorino was talking with another Walker supporter who was walking with a pro-Walker sign on the sidewalks near the recall petitioners.

Nagel said he pulled his camera out and began videotaping Lorino after she had been "very, very loud" and charged toward him, going up and down the hill as a citizen was signing the petition in her car in the parking lot.

Lorino went to get her camera from her car and walked toward Nagel saying, "Let's get a camera picture together. We'll get a picture together."

But when she approached Nagel to take a photo, she saw he was videotaping her and Nagel said she grabbed and pushed his arm, jostling his video image. He was standing by the car.

According to a video Nagel showed Brookfield Patch, Lorino said,  "Don't videotape me. You can't videotape me."

"Could you call the police, please," Nagel said. "You just put your hands on me."

"I did," she said. "You can't videotape me without my permission. What is wrong with you?"

Nagel then filmed her license plate number, and she took a photo of the license plate of the 77-year-old woman signing the petition in her car. That woman objected strongly, and Lorino apologized profusely and deleted the photo when she realized the woman in the car was not a petition volunteer but a citizen signing it.

The 77-year-old woman alerted Nagel that his petition papers were flying away and he went to grab them, as did Spieckerman, who walked up at that time.

Nagel told Spieckerman: "She just grabbed me by the arm. Call the police, she just grabbed me by the arm, I got it on video."

Both Waukesha men said the collection of recall petitions is wrapping up. Nagel said he was likely done collecting signatures; Spieckerman said he wanted to keep collecting until Saturday, three days before the Jan. 17 deadline to file them. The Waukesha recall office is closing Friday, he said.

Spieckerman said he planned to return to Bluemound Road in Brookfield, a GOP stronghold where voters overwhelmingly supported Walker, because that road is a major corridor with traffic from many communities.

He said at its peak petition volunteers were getting 60 to 80 signatures a day in Brookfield and "over 100 signatures on weekends."

"This isn't going to deter me at all," Spieckerman said. "I want to see the recall go through. I believe that we're doing the right thing."

jimspice January 09, 2012 at 07:55 PM
And why is it that protesters are referred to as thugs and these people arent?
Morninmist Same January 09, 2012 at 11:38 PM
Walker is NOT a leader as he has NOT denounced the violence coming from his own fans!
TOM January 10, 2012 at 12:15 AM
nothing is to expensive if it pays for itself these parasonic leeches on the tax dole needed to come down a peg or 2 walker will prevail the silent majority will see to it
Randy1949 January 10, 2012 at 04:32 AM
@TOM -- could you please define 'parasonic' for me? As for leeches on the tax dollar, there is one very bloated leech in Madison who has been appointing cronies to positions where they might get into mischief. See today's JSO. It's time we flick him off.
Panzer Vom Xillo January 10, 2012 at 01:50 PM
Even their signage with the Upraised Fist Wisconsin Image reeks of union thug socialism. We need to get them out of our state and end the leaching on our businesses, and our government.
morninmist January 10, 2012 at 02:11 PM
@Panzer Vom Xillo Have a good day. RecallWalkerBot Recall Walker Bot Good morning, Wisconsin. You will recall Scott Walker in 3 days. #wi3 #wiunion #wirecall #wiall #p2 9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Bitter Clinger January 10, 2012 at 02:16 PM
OMG, she touched his arm! These leftards are such pussies.
Panzer Vom Xillo January 10, 2012 at 02:23 PM
...leftards... the term really fits. :-)
NT January 10, 2012 at 02:27 PM
This same person Steve Nagel, is just baiting people argue with him so he can capture them on tape. He has done this more than once(look at the police reports). I really cannot believe they make such a big issue of a little woman batting the camera away. If someone stuck a camera in my personal space....i would bat it away also.
Greg January 10, 2012 at 03:07 PM
I am glad to see that you finally agree that Obama is Not a leader as he doesn't denounce the violence caused by his supporters. He supported Occupy Wall Street and look what problems they caused and he never said a word.
colleen January 10, 2012 at 05:26 PM
First of all- JayZee, Panzer etc. people on the right who are worried about interference in ones lives should note that protesting and doing public activism and outreach is not only legal, but ALL AMERICAN. Secondly, whether you agree with the person and their ideas OR NOT you do not have the right to touch them or invade their personal space. Had the roles been reversed no doubt you guys would be first in line to throw the guy in jail for assault. Secondly, based on what I understand- when people are in public they are subject to anyone taking their picture and she was not entitled to the "privacy" of not being photographed. So he has every right to photograph her public activities and if she ended up embarrassing herself- good for her to admit it. As to the citation, make her pay.
morninmist January 10, 2012 at 06:40 PM
@JayZee You must have went to the Editing School taught by Charlie Sykes and his ilk!! ................. ....According to the latest police reports: Lorino was accused of approaching Nagel who was videotaping her, yelling at him, grabbing his arm and pushing him against a car as another person was signing the petition to recall Walker.
Randy1949 January 11, 2012 at 04:11 PM
If that's the case, don't take the bait. Smile, keep your distance. Don't confirm the worst impression. As far as sticking a camera in personal space, she approached him. Keep your personal space away and you won't have a camera stuck in it.
Noname January 11, 2012 at 05:41 PM
Nagel has over 10 cases just like this. Hes told police and other people different stories. He said he was hit by an uppercut then says it was arm then that he was pushed against a car. She pushed his arm away. She's 5 foot 2 and he was a big dude. He doesn't need to be a pussy about the situation. Get over it and move on.
Noname January 11, 2012 at 05:55 PM
And Colleen if you'd like to talk about not invading personal space then why don't you mention how close Nagel was to her face. That's invading personal space. The camera turned out of focus that's how close he was.
NT January 11, 2012 at 08:11 PM
I totally agree! did you see the video. Regardless of politics, I would not take lightly to having a finger, a camera or anything shoved in my face. This guy is a bottom feeder of the socioeconomic food chain. I will bet money that he has other claims such as disability or other lawsuits to supplement his income.
NT January 11, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Randy - so you feel OK having some one film you, you car license, your kids. You may well be within your amendments rights to film, but obviously this was used for other purposes. First! - She push the camera away...You can see it on the camera. It was moving closer toward her face while she was standing next to him. Secondly - his reports keep changing. From an "uppercut" to "being thrown against a car" Did you see that? - NO! because it did not happen she pushed the CAMERA away Third - look at the angle of the camera he stands so much taller and possibly bigger. Man-up Nagel! This is a petite woman Fourth - I sat on the fence with this politics and I have yet to decide, but after seeing this fake assault charge, twisting of the constitution, entitlement type, lying, unapologetic(yes both sides should say they are sorry), I have found Nagel to be an abhorrent representation of the anti walker campaign
Randy1949 January 11, 2012 at 09:04 PM
@NT -- I just watched the video. She was outwardly less hostile than the man in the first incident, but she was approaching him waving a camera, talking about taking a picture together, and she's complaining he can't videotape her? And she swatted his arm. She had been walking toward him. As Mr. Miyagi would say -- the best way not to have a camera in your face is not to bring your face there in the first place. I stood next to Steve Nagel while I was signing his petition, and he's not a huge guy. Size is beside the point anyway. She confronted him. She laid a hand on him. It's disorderly conduct, fair and square. At least Ms. Lorino manned up and apologized for her behavior.
Gnarboots January 11, 2012 at 09:55 PM
They both had the right to film each other in public. But a line was crossed when Linda Lorino assaulted a person thus breaking the law. Who cares who you support just do it withing the scope of the law.
morninmist January 12, 2012 at 07:24 AM
Well said.


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