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Memory Care Facility Wins Backing Despite Concerns From Overflow Crowd

Care center for elderly patients with dementia is proposed on Davidson Road, north of Greenfield Avenue. Neighbors packed City Hall, arguing the residential area is not where the facility should go.

A 100-bed memory care facility won support Monday of city plan commissioners, some of whom tried to allay neighbors concerns about their safety, traffic and quality of life.

After listening to more than an hour of public comments from an overflow crowd, commissioners said they had little choice but recommend approval because the plan met all city requirements.

Commissioners Kevin Wahlgren and Paul Wartman said they were not thrilled with the proposed residentially zoned site for the care center for dementia and related elderly patients. Others said it meets a community need and would not have a negative impact on surrounding homes.

In the end, only Wahlgren voted against.

, 18000 W. Greenfield Ave., plans to sell about seven acres north of the church off Davidson Road to Silverado Senior Living, based in Irvine, CA, to build and operate a 45,000-square-foot memory care facility.

The land is zoned for residential development. But Community Development Director Dan Ertl told the large crowd that the senior center was considered an institutional facility, like churches, schools and hospitals. Those facilities are allowed in all areas of the city, except conservancy districts, if they meet site standards for a conditional use permit.

And in the late 1990s when the city held hearings to adopt a new 2035 comprehensive plan, it marked the St. Luke property for future community / institutional use, not residential, Ertl said.

Neighbors, however, said this institution was a for-profit business that equated more to a commercial enterprise and was not appropriate for a residential setting.

"This completely changes the landscape of the community," neighbor Ken Nowak said.

Brookfield resident Peter Bylow said Silverado had a stellar reputation for providing quality care for elderly.

"This is an opportunity for Brookfield to have a first-class facility," said Bylow, who compared it to a Neenah facility that had been a wonderful setting for his mother-in-law for the end of her life.

But Jan Rymaszewski echoed many neighbors, calling the care center's mission "admirable" and compassionate but urging it be built near businesses and multifamily housing.

The church's excess land "should be sold as residential land," she said.

Kathy DuBois July 10, 2012 at 08:17 PM
VERY WRONG ! Like stated in comments above SELL off the land to BUILD HOMES . And like stated in comment above QUALITY care is priceless .....well worth PRIVATE PAY till all of your funds/assetts are gone THEN....THEN ......Medicaid will pay the difference.Where will these people go after funds are gone ? Talk about compassion..WOW ! BIG difference you PAY your way . And as for comment on Church issue ....God's Home should stay there THAT was not a debate issue. Did we all think the land would stay vacant forever? NO ! Just trusted when you build your home in a RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION = HOMES . Patty Lane was expanded did the homeowners complain about that ? NO ! Because it was RESIDENTIAL HOMES . I am sure if you were to poll ALL of subdivision this issue developing the land into lots we would more than welcome. We are NOT being unreasonable ....Just want to keep a residential subdivision same as when we all bought our land = Residential HOMES.
Ted Nowak July 10, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Andy if you would have attended the meeting yesterday you would have heard Mayor Ponto tell the everyone "if I lived in this subdivision I would oppose this building". Also you might be interested in knowing that in 2010, Brookfield approved a conditional use permit for the building of a 40 bed memory care facility on the old Sentry store property (corner of Greenfield and Calhoun. Silverado can build a facility there if Brookfield is in need of more memory care buildings, because it has been vacant for some time.
Andy Smith July 10, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Ted, the alternative facility you propose would be 60-percent smaller ... that's hardly comparable or an apples-to-apples option. Do you anticipate (would you prefer) that this land remain grass and thereby produce no additional property tax revenue to build the tax base for everyone's benefit, and/or, are you willing to never have families realize the potential income and benefits from staff positions within the facility? What was your objection to the religious mosque in Brookfield? I'm delighted that Mayor Ponto has an opinion about the proposal; his is one man's opinion. It doesn't trump everyone else's, of course.
Kathy DuBois July 10, 2012 at 11:11 PM
WELL SAID TED ......
Kathy DuBois July 10, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Andy- RESIDENTIAL HOMES bring revenue also. And , in respons to Mayor Ponto opinion .....Very true he is ( 1 ) opinion ....YOUR opinion is also ( 1 ) opinion. Guess thats apples-to-apples. Thanks for seeing our view Mayor Ponto !
Ted Nowak July 11, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Andy FYI there are 2 more properties that are being considered by the Brookfield Council for memory care buildings. 1 on 400 S Calhoun, the other on Calhoun south of The Ponds ice rink. 25 beds and 48 beds respectively. That added to the 40 bed already approved for 17100 W Greenfield adds up to 113 new beds!
Kathy DuBois July 11, 2012 at 12:22 AM
Ted- And not to mention Care-Age a 5 ***** Facility has open beds . Wonderful well staffed facility has Alzeimer/Dimensia patients. Woodland also has open beds.
Disgusted resident July 11, 2012 at 03:56 AM
Many years ago that land was donated along with a request that it will always be used by the church. VERY soon after the donor died the land was for sale. I am embarrassed by St Luke's moral values.
Kathy DuBois July 12, 2012 at 12:35 PM
AGREE !!!!!!! And WHERE is the many other donated Sacred items donated from PAST St Luke Deceased Parishioners ???????????????????
DICK STEINBERG July 12, 2012 at 11:17 PM
just a thought. developers always ask for more than they expect and are always ready to make concessions. Dan Ertl is good at coaching the developers on how to get approved. and so it goes on and on and on..........
Kathy DuBois July 12, 2012 at 11:25 PM
Thanks for the tip....Keep in mind ALL of these officials when it comes to voting. Who actually LISTENED to the citizens of Brookfield .
Andy Smith July 12, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Just a suggestion Kathy ... The more you use your CAPS LOCK the less credible you seem, and also, inserting many !!!!!!!!!!!! and ??????? puts you into the same group as those who fill the back of their vehicles with three or more bumper stickers. Just sayin'.
Kathy DuBois July 12, 2012 at 11:51 PM
Andy - Guess it got YOUR attention .....LOL
Scott Berg July 13, 2012 at 12:22 AM
Just a couple points of correction: The memory care facility proposed several years ago for the northeast corner of Calhoun and Greenfield was withdrawn by the developer long ago. It re-emerged as the proposal for Calhoun Road to the south of The Ponds ice arena. It's the same company and roughly the same capacity. That project was approved by the Common Council a month ago. The CVS Pharmacy now on the southeast corner of Calhoun and Blue Mound (former V. Richard's) was also proposed for the Greenfield site, but was moved in part because Blue Mound had more traffic. So, that southern lot has gathered interest, but how much new construction have you seen anywhere in the last 3 or so years?
Kel July 13, 2012 at 01:39 AM
EXACTLY! I am SO GLAD someone brought this up! It was DONATED to the church and to stay with the church. It was a "handshake deal" which MANY PEOPLE concur/agree DID, indeed, happen. It is a very sad day when a church doesn't hold to their word, or the word of those that came before them.
Andy Smith July 13, 2012 at 02:42 AM
YES, Kathy!!!!!! It most CERTAINLY did!!!!!!!! So, the property was given to the church to be utilized by the church. Seems to me that's exactly what's happening. The church sells land it was given and no longer has a use for, and is able to maintain or even expand its mission and purpose as a result. Anyone who supports St. Luke's shouldn't be opposed to that. Plenty of parishes have had to consolidate or close in the last thirty years. To use a long-held gift of real estate, now of limited direct value to the institution, by converting it into a more valuable cash asset for any number of purposes-- to reduce or eliminate debt; to maintain, repair, improve or expand internal and external facilities; to bring greater financial stability and strength to the parish; to more fully address current or emerging needs and goals for the school, outreach, liturgy or programming-- is responsible stewardship and greatly honors the original generosity of the donor. So back to the real issue . . . some people are afraid they're going to lose some money if their homes aren't worth as much when it comes time for ... them ... to sell.
Cindy Kilkenny July 13, 2012 at 03:22 AM
Andy Smith. Shucks. That "Small World" song just started playing in my head. You aren't by chance being paid by those who might benefit from an approval? (Just checking.) And you kind of sort of used two question marks yourself in an earlier comment. Not that anyone is paying attention or anything.
Kathy DuBois July 13, 2012 at 03:50 AM
Cindy - Wow..... Someone has it figured out !
Cindy Kilkenny July 13, 2012 at 03:52 AM
Oh, girl. I have stories.
Andy Smith July 13, 2012 at 08:08 AM
Starting vile rumors and insinuating falsehoods ... hmm-- it's the stock and trade of some. And yes, many stories can be told. Nope, just to set the record absolutely straight, not being paid by anyone on these topics. Yes, occasionally, emphasis with CAPitalization, exclamation marks, question marks and other punctuation is warranted and effective, and too often their use is gratuitous. Not worth arguing that obvious point, unless you feel some need to. If every conversation here or elsewhere must be endured as if it's being SHOUTED by people jumping up and down with their hair on fire, go right ahead, if you think that helps your case.
Kathy DuBois July 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Andy- In regard to comment above of rumors .....I am sure everyone who has taken the time to write has not started rumors . I think maybe YOU need to take a good look at what your past comments have been . Obviously, YOU dont live in this subdivision & need to realize we are all more than willing to have residential homes put on the vacant land which was stated many times . No Andy were not jumping up & down with our hair on fire. Maybe YOU need to take a good look at past comments you have made. Hope you have a better day /night than @ 3:08 a.m Friday.
Andy Smith July 13, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Still like that caps lock, it seems, and pointing with that bony finger of indignation has become another of your tendencies. Hopefully you'll realize that this is a decision for the entire community, by the entire community, and that's a good thing. What possible problem you have with people working day and/or night, or any particular day of the week is, as far as I can tell, lacking any meaningful significance.
Kathy DuBois July 13, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Andy - Boy ........Glad you still like the CAP LOCK......LOL And as for " Bony finger " why Thank-You ! Remember Andy " Thin is in " ! And for entire community comment the headlines read " Memory Care facility wins backing despite concerns from over filled crowd" . That was Over Filled Crowd of majority NOT wanting it , but wanting to keep it a residential = homes neighborhood. And in respons to people working day or night glad you have a job . Just didnt want you to be losing sleep over this . Now please have yourself a Good Day !
Ted Nowak July 13, 2012 at 01:39 PM
Scott, when people move into a residential area they do not expect building construction, and get frustrated when they get road construction ie the bluemoud road work currently going on. I understand that cites need to advance business to grow, that is why cities have "business districts" and if you prefer living near that type of hustle and bustle you move there. The people in the Briar Hills subdivision built in a residential zoned area and wanted quiet, and a safe area AWAY from the Bluemond, North Ave, Calhoun and Capitol Drive streets. I am sure one of the reasons that the memory care company pulled out of the Calhoun and Greenfield location is because they wanted more "green space" and it appears that Dan Ertl is pitching properties with green space (even if they disrupt quiet neighborhoods). So Brookfield residents beware, Dan Ertl with the apprval from our elected officials will eventually get to your neighborhood using their "conditional use" permit that is tacked on to all religiuos and school properties in Brookfield. So that nice parish that sits in your backyard could somday be the site of a 45,000 sq ft health facility!
Robert Curran July 14, 2012 at 01:42 AM
Are the Erbary Place lots still available on Davidson?
Ted Nowak July 14, 2012 at 04:16 AM
Yes it appears all are still availalble I feel sorry for this developer as these homes will butt up to this massive Silverado 45,000 sq ft building. Good luck selling them. Very sad.
Ted Nowak July 17, 2012 at 05:03 AM
Am I correct in saying that at the Tues City Hall meeting there is only 15 minutes being alloted for public comments on the Silverado 100 bed facility proposed on the St Luke property? If that is true, it seems the people that have invested 100 of thousands of dollars in their dream homes are being pushed aside by BIG BUSINESS again!
Scott Berg July 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Every Common Council meeting starts with a 15 minute comment period for any person, resident or not, to speak on any city related topic. The Silverado project had an official public hearing at the Plan Commision last week that lasted well over an hour. The official minutes were distributed to all aldermen and are available on the city web site. This hearing process fully complies with state law. You are welcome to comment tonight as well. What is it you will say that's not already on the record?
Andy Smith July 17, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Amen.
Kathy DuBois July 17, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Meeting is tonight @ 7:45 p.m. Brookfield City Hall Council Chambers.

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